Ligatures Ishimori vs Vandoren vs francois louis ultimate

I have the legacy. I prefer the metal on the reed it seems to dampen it less..I like metal basic ligs its a pig..seens like the ishimori is the only option..£260..😱
You can have a less dampen tone with a Rovner Dark ligature as well. Mount the screw and the pins so they are on the downside. The pins are clamping the reed and leave some of the stock open/free. To have a Plantinum with the screw and pins on the to top is also dampen the reed. Is not the metal lig that gives a more lively tone, It's the ligature that allow the reed to vibrate more.
 
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You can have a less dampen tone with a Rovner Dark ligature as well. Mount the screw and the pins so they are on the downside. The pins are clamping the reed and leave some of the stock open/free. To have a Plantinum with the screw and pins on the to top is also dampen the reed. Is not the metal on the lig that gives a more lively tone, It's the ligature that allow the reed to vibrate more.
Great tip @thomsax..the platinum seems the best out the 4 ligs i have and doesnt seem to dampen when inverted..FLs ok its an old link so some removal of plating (minimal) as its a tight fit is ok sounds good but fiddly as fick..Rovner legacy is fine pins on top metal against the reed, stock lig is okish. Also if i want more projection i use a plasticover so a bit of dampening may tone it down a bit i guess..
 
I'm not sure I follow you, Placebo effect? where does that come in, all the Reedgeek does is give you a way to alter reeds, yes it's expensive and I wouldn't have bought one myself but now I have one I have no problem in using it.
This is what I do when I'm working o reeds:

After playing the reed, should have been soaking up water for some hours, and you find that some tones is not playing so well. How the reed is playing decide what to do. I don't work on reeds which are playing well.

I work on on a piece of plexiglas which is laying on a table. Not holding the reed with my hands.

If a reed is not playing well I hold it up against light and try to see which part I should work on. A reed should be symmetric "V shaped".

Always work on a wet reed.

Pressure in the fibre direction.

To work on reeds is a combo of working with your ears and eyes. I have to play a reed several times during the process.

When I work on reeds my tools are; wet stones (more than one), plexiglas, razor blade/scalpel, feeler gauge, fine sandpaper, reed trimmer, a piece of linen, (drills + leaf saw).

I don't want to turn down the reed geek. Seems to be lots of enthusiasm and joy among the guys that are involved and players who are using the reed geek. They are selling klangenbogen as well. I think we are free to "like differnt".
 
The Klangbogen fits the placebo effect idea, the ReedGeek works, in a fairly straightforward fashion and you don't need a bundle of tools. It's major fault is it's outrageously expensive.
 
I have never tried a ReedGeek but my first impession was; are they not a little too "blunt" (trubbig)?

If your sax is singing better with the reed geek I hope everyone buy one.
 
Some people recommend a lathe tool bit as an option. It costs a fraction of the price of the Geek. It doesn't have the fancy handle that you get on the Geeklet or reed working bits and is very sharp but useable apparently. It puts the price of the ReedGeek into perspective but you don't get a nice plastic box and may cut yourself. See below -

 
If you going to work on reeds it's important to know what you are doing. Reed Geek, bar of steel or if you have differnt tools .... . To move the reed and the tool at the same time is not going to give you a good result.
 
I have the legacy. I prefer the metal on the reed it seems to dampen it less..I like metal basic ligs its a pig..seens like the ishimori is the only option..£260..😱

If used properly, no Rovner lig inherently dampens the sound.

If the back of the reed or the table of the mouthpiece are not 100% flat... do NOT overtighten the ligatures to compensate that far-from-perfect matching.
Just have the mouthpiece fixed and the back of the reed lapped and that's it.

Some of the ligatures that add brightness/edge are still Rovner's, model designed for that specific purpose.


Doesn’t the Link come with a lig? If you are happy talking yourself into an overpriced lig the go ahead. Headwind sell Zac ligs that fit all sizes, they cost about £100, check their site and see if you can find one to fit, or best of all call them.
Right. Zac ligatures can be customized since the "laces" can be made according to the customer request.
And many times they perform way better than you average Silverstein ligature, yet way more sturdier.

Zac Ligatures is - in short- a one-man business and Alberto (the owner) can't afford spending €€€€€€ in marketing, like other companies can.
 

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