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Flutes etc. Is there a reason why I shouldn't play sax and flute? If not, which to choose as a beginner?

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I've tried a few times to blow my wife's flutes. I can get a note, but that's about it. In the lower registers the fingering is about the same as the sax, but as you move up it goes haywire. Like altissimo on the sax.

Student level yamahas are, as said before really good. So are Jupiter. Not sure about Pearl. You can pick up really good ones from ebay, being sold on cos they were bought for kids who played for a while, but didn't really take to it. Don't be put off by tarnish, and watch out for cheapo nickel plated ones. Spending a bit more and finding one with a solid silver head joint is worth doing, I don't think the material makes any difference, but there seems to be more work put into them, so the sound is better.

There are variations to look out for - open/closed keys and offset keys. Probably better to start with closed keys and offset. However some of the open ones come with little plugs in the keys so they play easily, and when you're ready the plugs can be removed. Some models have an extended foot joint which gives you an extra low note, a bit like the low A saxes, but you probably won't see this in the student models.

One other thing to watch - make sure the flute plays well before buying - they need a more precise set up than a sax, and require a good flute tech.
 
Unfortunately you have to find someone who can actualy play to find out of it plays well .

I`m sure my Emerson is OK and the Pearl before it but I can`t even play the headjoints on their own very well let alone with a flute attached... never was a wind instrument designed to be as hard as possible :( ..

for me at least, even weird or large Brass instruments I`ve had a blast on are playable compared to the flute, heck even the bottom end of the Tenor recorder is .. I`ve watched countless you tube vids and still got nowhere (though saying that, Youtube vids actually made my clarinet playing even worse - LOL)
 
Unfortunately you have to find someone who can actualy play to find out of it plays well .

I`m sure my Emerson is OK and the Pearl before it but I can`t even play the headjoints on their own very well let alone with a flute attached... never was a wind instrument designed to be as hard as possible :( ..

for me at least, even weird or large Brass instruments I`ve had a blast on are playable compared to the flute, heck even the bottom end of the Tenor recorder is .. I`ve watched countless you tube vids and still got nowhere (though saying that, Youtube vids actually made my clarinet playing even worse - LOL)

Perhaps you need one of these.:)

http://www.drelinger.com/brochure/uprite_brochure6.htm#brochureTop
 
I watched a documentary a couple of nights ago about Bud Shank - playing sax and flute certainly did not do Bud any harm - although later on in life he ditched the flute to concentrate on alto sax...

During the 60s and 70s he was probably one of the more sought after jazz flute players especially with film and studio work.

Great player.

Cheers,

Greg S.
 
I'm a converted flautist, only seriously taking to saxophone about ten years ago. As Adolphe Sax adopted Theobald Boehm's flute fingering system for the saxophone in some ways it's an easy transition - apart from actually blowing the thing. That comes with practice, and what requires more practice is a quick transition between the two. Going from flute to sax is usually not a problem, but going in the other direction is sometimes interesting.
 
My flute and whistles lie untouched ( I used to play them hours a day) . Funny I just picked up my Flute this AM and started to play for the first time in years ( I keep every Instrument i own at hand and out of it`s case)

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My embouchure was nice and relaxed and I could have played all day. Whats interesting for me is that The Flute and Whistles definitely take me towards my Celtic leanings. I used to love putting together improvised Medleys when i was younger some maybe going on for 15 mins LOL . But still. The instrument offers up a completely diverse range of possibilities to the Saxophone including "Legit Playing" and for that reason I`d advise that the OP learns to play it as well as the Sax and not specialise at all.until you have decided and even then why make yourself Less versatile?. re Brand Yamaha are good but you can pick up bargains online I have a Beucher which plays well and in tune and cost Peanuts. mind you I`ve sen new Chinese Flutes for as little as £40 and if they play? who knows?
 
My flute and whistles lie untouched ( I used to play them hours a day) . Funny I just picked up my Flute this AM and started to play for the first time in years ( I keep every Instrument i own at hand and out of it`s case)

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My embouchure was nice and relaxed and I could have played all day. Whats interesting for me is that The Flute and Whistles definitely take me towards my Celtic leanings. I used to love putting together improvised Medleys when i was younger some maybe going on for 15 mins LOL . But still. The instrument offers up a completely diverse range of possibilities to the Saxophone including "Legit Playing" and for that reason I`d advise that the OP learns to play it as well as the Sax and not specialise at all.until you have decided and even then why make yourself Less versatile?. re Brand Yamaha are good but you can pick up bargains online I have a Beucher which plays well and in tune and cost Peanuts. mind you I`ve sen new Chinese Flutes for as little as £40 and if they play? who knows?

Always get the creeps when someone mentions Celtic and music but, thank goodness, no sight of a Bodhrän.
 
My flute and whistles lie untouched ( I used to play them hours a day) . Funny I just picked up my Flute this AM and started to play for the first time in years ( I keep every Instrument i own at hand and out of it`s case)

$_80.JPG


My embouchure was nice and relaxed and I could have played all day. Whats interesting for me is that The Flute and Whistles definitely take me towards my Celtic leanings. I used to love putting together improvised Medleys when i was younger some maybe going on for 15 mins LOL . But still. The instrument offers up a completely diverse range of possibilities to the Saxophone including "Legit Playing" and for that reason I`d advise that the OP learns to play it as well as the Sax and not specialise at all.until you have decided and even then why make yourself Less versatile?. re Brand Yamaha are good but you can pick up bargains online I have a Beucher which plays well and in tune and cost Peanuts. mind you I`ve sen new Chinese Flutes for as little as £40 and if they play? who knows?

Seriously cool music room...

but where's the drum kit...?!:)

Greg S.
 
Always get the creeps when someone mentions Celtic and music but, thank goodness, no sight of a Bodhrän.
Gah.

You are not listening to it right. First you need a few pints of the black stuff and a few glawsheens of the cratur. A few Jamesons and water usually gets me in the mood.

Then you need to listen to the uilleann pipes - the most soulful instrument on the face of the earth.

Begob this will have you in tears man wishing you were back in Kerry - even if you've never been there...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra-DSyWfptQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF3fW4Nox9U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHI5lcMOWpU

Great piper Brendan Ring here playing low whistle... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1T2LZqrbzY

Anonymous busker in Tralee blowin' up a storm... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daJVrzatiW0
 
Gah.

You are not listening to it right. First you need a few pints of the black stuff and a few glawsheens of the cratur. A few Jamesons and water usually gets me in the mood.

Then you need to listen to the uilleann pipes - the most soulful instrument on the face of the earth.

Begob this will have you in tears man wishing you were back in Kerry - even if you've never been there...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra-DSyWfptQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF3fW4Nox9U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHI5lcMOWpU

Great piper Brendan Ring here playing low whistle... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1T2LZqrbzY

Anonymous busker in Tralee blowin' up a storm... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daJVrzatiW0

I hope the guy banging the case didn't get any of the proceeds
 
Kernie,
Was listening to Planxty a long, long time ago, it;s the goat skin abusers and Irish Tenor Banjoists with whom I find issues. Sorry Andy..
 
Always get the creeps when someone mentions Celtic and music but, thank goodness, no sight of a Bodhrän.
Nowt wrong with a bodhran. Very handy at times. (Back to the main thread.... you can't go wrong with a Yamaha flute or sax. It's always handy to be able to bring another instrument into a song. I "double2 on sax (T/A/S), flute, bass and.... bodhran!
 
Gah.

You are not listening to it right. First you need a few pints of the black stuff and a few glawsheens of the cratur. A few Jamesons and water usually gets me in the mood.

Then you need to listen to the uilleann pipes - the most soulful instrument on the face of the earth.

Begob this will have you in tears man wishing you were back in Kerry - even if you've never been there...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra-DSyWfptQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF3fW4Nox9U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHI5lcMOWpU

Great piper Brendan Ring here playing low whistle... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1T2LZqrbzY

Anonymous busker in Tralee blowin' up a storm... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daJVrzatiW0
What part of Kerry would you be wishing to be in?
 
What part of Kerry would you be wishing to be in?
John B Keane's bar in Listowel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL7jyXCQ2Zc, maybe or perhaps The Pure Drop, where Mickey MacConnel often performs - I owe him a pint. Or perhaps in Paddy Mac's in Tralee, or one of the pubs in Dingle, near where my maternal grandmother and greatgrandmother were born (Moriarty's, perhaps - sorry, Prof!). And of course I'd have to go down to County Cork and have one in The Four Alls at Sam's Cross after visiting the site where yer man's parents house stood before a certain unfortunate incident, and also Béal na mBláth, of course, he being a cousin of my great granny.

If I can get my camper sorted out I plan to go this summer.
 
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