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Dakutoo

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I had posted once before looking for suggestions for a mouthpiece for my daughter.. you guys were so helpful and nice even though I didn't post much information and I thank you again!

I did buy her a mouthpiece.. a Vandoren Hard rubber V16 and it arrived in the mail today.. Here's the 'idiot' part. I've never seen anything except the plastic pieces that come with the student sax.. I expected the thing to be more... I dunno.. rubber feeling. It's hard, shiny and feels/sounds like plastic when I tap it with a fingernail... just like the starter mouthpiece that came with her first one. Is this right? Is this what the hard rubber looks feels and sounds like??

I bought it through Amazon.. we never made it to the too far away music store to see others. The ASIN is B000UGYYTW

Thanks so much for taking the time to read (and hopefully) respond.
 

kevgermany

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Sounds right. Hard rubber, when new looks a lot like plastic. Not bouncy at all.

Just keep it away from hot water.
 

TomMapfumo

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Re: Thank you so much!

Needed to make sure I did it right :)
The rubber is "baked as it were - vulcanized. The same way that a bowling ball is made. It should look more refined/solid than plastic and has superior acoustic qualities. I hope that your daughter gets on well with it!
 

Moz

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I did buy her a mouthpiece.. a Vandoren Hard rubber V16 and it arrived in the mail today.. Here's the 'idiot' part. I've never seen anything except the plastic pieces that come with the student sax.. I expected the thing to be more... I dunno.. rubber feeling.
Oh thank god, I thought I was alone, and I have been playing for years!

I have now looked up my Yanagisawa mouthpiece material and found ebonite is another name for the 'hard' rubber you speak of.

Martin
 

TomMapfumo

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The clue is in the word "Hard"................perhaps you are thinking of "Soft" rubber?! Dictionaries are good presents for Christmas!
 

Pete Thomas

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Hard Rubber contains various "plastics", to legally call it hard Rubber it does not need to be not 100% hard rubber I think. It could be that vandoren contains more plastic than other or earlier mouthpieces. But if they call it Hard Rubber, then it is mostly hard rubber.

Although by definition hard rubber is a type of plastic anyway.
 
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Not to be "non-conformist" or anything but shouldn't he be more concerned with how this mouthpiece is working for his daughter? I suppose the type of material it is constructed from is important but personally, I would be more concerned with how wide is the tip opening and chamber area's size and shape before I would worry about whether it's completely rubber! Having just gone through eight different mouthpieces looking for the one that makes my sax's set-up work optimally, I guess my priorities are slightly different. I am really not trying to sound b*tchy! I understood his confusion and a Vandoren V16 is a nice mouthpiece! My concern is that I have five "nice" mouthpieces and only two that I would consider using on my sax right now! (Am I opening up another whole can of worms? Ummm, maybe I'll shut up now...)
 
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kevgermany

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Not to be "non-conformist" or anything but shouldn't he be more concerned with how this mouthpiece is working for his daughter? I suppose the type of material it is constructed from is important but personally, I would be more concerned with how wide is the tip opening and chamber area's size and shape before I would worry about whether it's completely rubber! Having just gone through eight different mouthpieces looking for the one that makes my sax's set-up work optimally, I guess my priorities are slightly different.
Yes, but I think the OP was worried about a possible con...
 

TomMapfumo

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Get him lads, he's a Non Conformist, and he's got loads of new mouthpieces too.........................:shocked::w00t:;}
 
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