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QWales

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6xNuUEnh2g OK sorry to those who hate the song (heard on radio 2 this morning) but the bit I'm talking about kicks in at 1:00.

Anyway... I presume this guy is shouting/growling into his mouthpiece, does he need to have a particular type of mouthpiece or is it a combination of both that gets him this type of sound effect?

Any tips on practicing to get this sound would be gratfully received.
 

Pyrografix

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There have been a few threads on the forum re: Growling, And Pete has an article about it. Put growl in the search section and you'll find the right bits!
I still can't do it :(!!

Cheers,

Amanda
 

thomsax

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That's Boots Randolph playing. A great player. Lot's of power. I think I can hear some growling, heavy vibrato (the great shake), staccato (chicken sax) ..... . Randolph had a very good technique. And he mastered the whole range of the saxophone. He was playing a Dukoff mouthpiece and his sax was a Selmer Mk six. But in the beginning of his career he played a The Martin :)
 

QWales

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It'd be great to be able to extract the sound of the Sax and here exactly what Boots is up to, it sounds great. Anyway thanks for the info guys, time to practice some growling :)
 

QWales

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Nice find OldPuffer, boy that guy really has it down.
 

thomsax

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Boots Randolph also became famous for his "biting staccato", something à la Rudy Wiedoft, and the "fiddle-like" licks that he heard as a child in Kentucky. There is a good article about Boots Randolph in Saxophone Journal Mar/Apr 1989.
 

Riversider

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Hi QWales, good to hear from you. Snake Davis recommends practicing the growl by detaching the neck from the sax and playing that on its own. It does help. Cheers.
Rory
 

Colin the Bear

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Add the voice to the note. I shout more than growl or humm. The voice needs to come from the diaphragm not the throat. It's like trying to sing and whistle at the same time. I don't worry about what note I'm voicing and remember it sounds better from in front of the sax than it does behind the mouthpiece.
 

sushidushi

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Not the thing to play with one's back to the audience then.

I've tried doing the growl thing and just hum whilst playing. Perhaps a cross between humming and almost clearing the throat...
 

sushidushi

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Sort of off-topic, but Joe Darensbourg who played clarinet with Louis Armstrong made some amazing staccato sounds. I am in utterly in awe of his playing. And Louis Armstrong's, indeed.
 

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