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milandro

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thanks, the pictures are atrociously small to see any of the many important details essential to identify this horn.

Pre-war Selmer? Yes but quite a bit older than the more desirable models. So, if indeed this is a Henri Selmer baritone, due to its left hand bell keys, the upper octave key on the neck and the brace this “ could be “ a ’20 Selmer. Maybe one of those Adolphe Sax models?

The G# is strange, for a saxophone of that era, they were mostly round buttons which due to their awkwardness were often replaced on several brands of horns, on the other hand this could be original and meaning that this saxophone is not what it appears to be.

The price is whatever it is, adequate, but I would certainly ask for larger and more detailed pictures and a serial number before making any move.
 
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it`s still there so I doubt its anything special. Dealers grab essential items & bargains within minutes . just goes to show I guess that not everything sax wise with Henri's name on is desirable . if that had been a YBS32 it`d have lasted a few minutes, even a jupiter would have gone in the hour.
 

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thanks, the pictures are atrociously small to see any of the many important details essential to identify this horn.

Pre-war Selmer? Yes but quite a bit older than the more desirable models. So, if indeed this is a Henri Selmer baritone, due to its left hand bell keys, the upper octave key on the neck and the brace this “ could be “ a ’20 Selmer. Maybe one of those Adolphe Sax models?

The G# is strange, for a saxophone of that era, they were mostly round buttons which due to their awkwardness were often replaced on several brands of horns, on the other hand this could be original and meaning that this saxophone is not what it appears to be.

The price is whatever it is, adequate, but I would certainly ask for larger and more detailed pictures and a serial number before making any move.
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it`s still there so I doubt its anything special. Dealers grab essential items & bargains within minutes . just goes to show I guess that not everything sax wise with Henri's name on is desirable . if that had been a YBS32 it`d have lasted a few minutes, even a jupiter would have gone in the hour.

Ads, are you on that Penn? bit of a bargain at the moment if you are :D:thumb:
 

Melissa

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thanks, the pictures are atrociously small to see any of the many important details essential to identify this horn.

Pre-war Selmer? Yes but quite a bit older than the more desirable models. So, if indeed this is a Henri Selmer baritone, due to its left hand bell keys, the upper octave key on the neck and the brace this “ could be “ a ’20 Selmer. Maybe one of those Adolphe Sax models?

The G# is strange, for a saxophone of that era, they were mostly round buttons which due to their awkwardness were often replaced on several brands of horns, on the other hand this could be original and meaning that this saxophone is not what it appears to be.

The price is whatever it is, adequate, but I would certainly ask for larger and more detailed pictures and a serial number before making any move.


I have asked the seller if this is possible, ok, I know it is only low Bb, but I did not see it as very dear at all, not with the altos and tenors making this money easily.. well usually, it shall be interesting if he advises the serial numbers and other requested info, shall keep you posted.
 

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not everything sax wise with Henri's name on is desirable

I've only bought a handful of old saxophones, but it seems to me that there's wisdom in Mr Saxgourmet's paragraph on Selmer prices.
 
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Pete Thomas

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thanks, the pictures are atrociously small to see any of the many important details essential to identify this horn.

Pre-war Selmer? Yes but quite a bit older than the more desirable models. So, if indeed this is a Henri Selmer baritone, due to its left hand bell keys, the upper octave key on the neck and the brace this “ could be “ a ’20 Selmer. Maybe one of those Adolphe Sax models?

I had a Modele 22 baritone once, it was not really very good at all - weedy sound. I'm not sure this is a 22, could be an Adolphe as you say but I don't remember the Selmer Adolphes actually saying "H Selmer" on them.

I agree pics are useless and we would need to assume a complete overhaul so the BIN is not really a bragain.
 

milandro

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as far as I know , when Selmer bought the Adolphe ( Edouard) Sax company, they produced some saxophones which were hybrids and sometimes they ended up with the Adolphe Sax name and some were branded as Henri Selmer.

This horn in the pictures of ebay appears to have some of the features by both Henri Selmer and Adolphe Edouard Sax and I would be inclined to think that it is indeed one of these hybrids of that era.

Despite the illustrious lineage. If this is what I suspect it is, these horns are neither expensive nor very good sounding.

Which is the reason why I described the price as, at most being: “ appropriate"
 

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He has replied:

Hi The serial number is 13342 as stated in the listing the instrument was manufactured pre war you will also see that i have highered the start price as i have sorted the leak and the sax now plays the full range
 

milandro

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Pre War, in this case, is an expression which covers pretty much the whole inter-bellum period.

the SN 13342 puts this exactly in the range of the Adolphe (Edouard) Sax, Selmer made saxophones and dating it around 1930
 
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Did those early baris have a key on the crook/neck like this one has? It looks to me more like a Conn.
 

milandro

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Yes they certainly did,


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The lh cluster looks like my late 30s Kohlert Maybe it's. A Pennsylvania special, these were made by Kohlert. There are a couple of owners of these on the forum who may be able to confirm or deny. An excellent sax if it is.
 

milandro

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I am quite sure that the bell to body brace is a kosher Selmer/Adolphe Edouard Sax
 

kevgermany

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I am quite sure that the bell to body brace is a kosher Selmer/Adolphe Edouard Sax
Serial no is too low for Kohlert as well, but I posted before reading your analysis - one of the downsides of using a phone, you don'the see all the other posts.
 

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