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gnu

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Hi All

I've been skulking around the forum for 2-3 months and thought it time to say hello. I'm new to the sax (well any sort of instrument) barring a very brief, unsuccessful encounter with an alto (sax, not singer) 20+ years ago. But I've always harbored a want of playing it, so given that I now have more years behind me than could possibly ahead, I've taken then plunge once more. Big style. I got me a bass :w00t: Only had it a couple of weeks but loving every second with it... Although, I don't know if my neighbors are >:) Had a few lessons and I'm getting on okay (I guess, for someone apparently so unmusical). Everyone thinks I'm mad, but at least I'm happily mad :thumb:

Spent a great day at the Sax World Congress last weekend and have got the Jazz and Blues Festival starting this weekend, so far have tickets for Dr John, The Red Stripe Band, Jools Holland and The World Jazz Orchestra :welldone

Warm Regards
George
 

Pyrografix

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Hi George, and welcome to the Madhouse.

How far north of the border are you?

Cheers,

Amanda
 

Sue

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Welcome to the cafe. Where exactly is south of sensible - is it somewhere I should visit? Will I get some sense if I go there? I think it's too late for me alas!
 

Jeanette

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Hi George

Welcome to the cafe, I am sure after 2 or 3 months you have the measure of us;}

Jx
 

gnu

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Hi Amanda,
Edinburgh, but was brought up in Aberdeen (and left asap ;}) Did you make it to the WSC?
g
 

Pyrografix

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Yes, went to the Open Day - great fun but v hard work! About 70 massed saxes (age 6-76) learning and performing 2 new pieces, plus an improv workshop. Met some lovely people and was very impressed by the enthusiasm, especially of the youngsters.:)
 

kevgermany

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Hi George, big welcome from me. Good to see you're able to post! Have fun with that bass!
 

Justin Chune

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Hello George, and a warm welcome to the cafe. I was in The Wind Section recently and they had a new bass sax on display. Big aren't they? Happy Blowing.

Jim.
 

Taz

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Bass :w00t: .......... :))) sorry, most people say "Which sax should I start with, most people have said I need an alto as it's the easiest to handle" By George, George, you don't do things by halves then do you? Perhaps if you lived a little north of Sensible you would have started on a Ninio! :)))........ :w00t: Sorry again, how rude of me to laugh without welcoming you first. Welcome to the cafe.
















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gnu

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:) Thanks Taz, no half measures with me, you should see my bikes... and my penny farthings... and .... I actually 'blame' this forum... I remember reading a post which said (and I'm paraphrasing) you should want to pick up the instrument every time you look at it.. okay, barring weight... good advice :)))

...And Jim, that was, in all probability, my sax you were looking at :w00t: and it's not new, just looks that way... just as well I've got a pickup truck :thumb:

Any tips from other bass players, climatologists, back specialists?
 

old git

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Welcome to the caff©, George.

North of the border and South of sensible? Reckon that's Watford, Herts.>:)

ENJOY! ​™
 

TomMapfumo

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Hi George!

A Big Welcome from the Skabertawe Jazz & Blues Orchestra down by yer in Wales, mind. I studied in St. Andrews many years ago, and used to go to Edinburgh quite regularly on the Saturday student bus! I look forward to hearing about your exploits on the Bass Sax - are you using a Yamaha 4C mouthpiece?!

Hope you enjoy taking the plunge into full membership!
Kind regards
Tom :thumb:
 

gnu

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Hi Tom
Thanks for the welcome. I got two mps with the sax, both Zinner: I'm using the 54S-6 with a Legere 3.5 reed. The second is labeled 7B which I have tried but only get a really buzzy sound (tried it with everything from a 2 to 3.5 reed) I'm guessing it's down to my under-developed embouchure. The big difference (apart from the crass buzzing) is that the 7B is significantly louder when using the ok. Any explanation for this phenomenon? (I mean barring my ability :D)

Warm Regards
George
 

TomMapfumo

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Apparently the B means bright, so the mouthpiece may have a smaller chamber/larger baffle and an under-developed embouchure may struggle to control such a mouthpiece, hence the buzzing. The 54-6 mouthpiece is more classical in design which usually means smaller tip (smaller tip is generally quieter, larger tip is louder) and a larger chamber -(larger is usually darker/mellower. I imagine that the 7B is going to be harder to play - larger tip and possible smaller chamber. I know nothing aboiut Bass saxes but something about mouthpiece design.

Kind regards
Tom

Generally a brighter mouthpiece benefits from American Cut/Unfiled reeds - such a Rico Orange/Vandoren Java etc.
 

gnu

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Thanks Tom,
Makes sense when you say it like that :)

If you don't mind me picking your brains on mps? The 6 is a snug fit on the neck and is pretty much in tone top to bottom, but the 7 slides completely on and is WAY sharp. If I try to get it in tune it's rattling on the neck. Any solution?

Just tried playing it on a neck strap and nearly passed out with a lack of blood to the brain! Cheaper than wine I suppose :))) Maybe I should try a guitar strap...

Warm Regards
George
 

TomMapfumo

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1. Instead of a Neck Strap there are various body harnesses available online (by BG and Neotech), which folks often use for baritone and similar.

2. Most folks use some sellotape or similar around the cork to provide a tighter fit with ceratin mouthpieces. I use similar on several of my brass instruments as the mouthpieces can sometimes be tighter or looser than seems desirable.

Hope this helps
Tom
 

gnu

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Thanks for the link Kev,
They don't appear to list facing info for bass, would it be the same as bari?

Thanks Tom,
Looking at the mps, the rails on the 7 are longer (~1.5mm) and wider (~0.5mm) although the opening is the same width for the full length. Going to make my first modification>:) well, okay, maybe just sellotape, but it's a start :D

Warm Regards
George
 

Justin Chune

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At a CASS weekend some years ago, the late Prof Stephen Tryer had this advice for anyone thinking about taking up the bass sax. "Get the most open mouthpiece you can find and the softest reeds, then blow like hell" I don't know if he was kidding about the last bit.

Jim.
 
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