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oldpuffer

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Might need some help with this one, whilst a little under the influence I won a bid for a Lawton 7*B mpc for my tenor. I've only been playing since March and have never played any music at all. It will probably arrive tomorrow. At the moment my mpc is a vandoren optimum TL4 with a vandoren 2.5 reed, which I must admit tires my mouth but I'm persevering with it, prefer the tone.

Should I stroke the Lawton for a bit, then put it away, or go down on reed strength, any advice appreciated.

And I promise not to drink real ale and bid on e-bay ever again :).
 

Merryfisher

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Might need some help with this one, whilst a little under the influence I won a bid for a Lawton 7*B mpc for my tenor. I've only been playing since March and have never played any music at all. It will probably arrive tomorrow. At the moment my mpc is a vandoren optimum TL4 with a vandoren 2.5 reed, which I must admit tires my mouth but I'm persevering with it, prefer the tone.

Should I stroke the Lawton for a bit, then put it away, or go down on reed strength, any advice appreciated.

And I promise not to drink real ale and bid on e-bay ever again :).

great mouthpiece - i love em! only way to find out how it does for you is to give it a go....you might find tho that if you have only recently started on this journey of a life time, it might be a step too soon..but hey, you've still got a great mpc for when the time comes...
 

oldpuffer

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I'm no spring chicken so I might just give it a blow, go down to a rico 2 maybe? Or you can have it for 300 quid :)
 

TomMapfumo

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Congratulations on your new acquisition! The Lawton has a 0.105" tip opening, which is a lot larger than the 0.077" tip opening of ther Optimum, so you should need much softer reeds. If you currently use Vandoren Traditional 2.5 you will probably need an ordinary 2 strength reed or even 1.5 to get a reasonable sound. I'd recommend something like a Rico Jazz Select 2S reed, or other "Jazz Cut" reed, like a Marca Jazz 2 or similar. Here is an accurate chart of reed strengths - the Vandoren Traditional is harder than most other reeds, so aim softer if you want to have a go. http://www.saxophon-service.de/shop/z_57.htm Always a good idea to give a new mouthpiece a try as it may be a better choice overall, or give you a different sound, which you may prefer, or not!

Good luck!
Tom
 
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Fraser Jarvis

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I had a similar experience to the one you discribe...i ended up with a Lawton 10B but after marveling at the massive gap between the reed tip and the tip of the piece i found it nice, think i was using vandoran v16 reeds at the time in a 2.5....like most things you will soon get used to it...
 

oldpuffer

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Congratulations on your new acquisition! The Lawton has a 0.105" tip opening, which is a lot larger than the 0.077" tip opening of ther Optimum, so you should need much softer reeds. If you currently use Vandoren Traditional 2.5 you will probably need an ordinary 2 strength reed or even 1.5 to get a reasonable sound. I'd recommend something like a Rico Jazz Select 2S reed, or other "Jazz Cut" reed, like a Marca Jazz 2 or similar. Here is an accurate chart of reed strengths - the Vandoren Traditional is harder than most other reeds, so aim softer if you want to have a go. http://www.saxophon-service.de/shop/z_57.htm Always a good idea to give a new mouthpiece a try as it may be a better choice overall, or give you a different sound, which you may prefer, or not!

Good luck!
Tom

Wow thanks very much Tom, so a 'jazz' cut reed will give me a chance. E-bay here I come. I did used to wonder what GAS was but think I understand now :)
 

Saxlicker

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I did used to wonder what GAS was but think I understand now :)

I have good news for you oldpuffer.....

If you had mouthpiece related GAS you would have remained sober in order to focus on submitting your e-b-ay bid in a timely manor minimising the risk of being beaten by higher bids in the last few moments.

I think you are OK...
but if symptoms persist or get worse you'll need to make another appointment and we'll run some tests.
:)
 

oldpuffer

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I have good news for you oldpuffer.....

If you had mouthpiece related GAS you would have remained sober in order to focus on submitting your e-b-ay bid in a timely manor minimising the risk of being beaten by higher bids in the last few moments.

I think you are OK...
but if symptoms persist or get worse you'll need to make another appointment and we'll run some tests.
:)

I hope you are right, got it for less than £200 and hopefully will settle down with it. All I need now is an amplifier and speakers for the backing music. Any recommendations?
 

QWales

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I hope you are right, got it for less than £200 and hopefully will settle down with it. All I need now is an amplifier and speakers for the backing music. Any recommendations?

If you're talking portable and if you have a bit of spare cash about, one of the best portables is the B&O Zeppelin £400 ish. A cheaper option I can recommend is the rechargable Logitech S715i which can be picked up for around £55 on Ebay (ipod doc and line in), there is also a Wireless version of this for an xtra £50 (ish).
 
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MandyH

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I have a TDK sound cube, with an 8GB memory stick in it (about the size of a thumbnail)

I've put all my backing tracks on it, and it's got a decent volume to it - if I played it at half volume, I would wake the whole street.

It will take input via USB, line-in or audio jacks. (don't know what they're really called), and comes with a USB to iPod cable and a double ended 3.5 mm jack cable. Can be run on batteries, comes with a mains adapter.

It's this one: http://www.amazon.co.uk/TDK-Sound-Cube-Audio-System/dp/B004KZF8AS
 

oldpuffer

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Well............. the mpc arrived today, full of excitement I fitted a reed, but found it wouldn't go far down the cork on the neck... tried playing it and it sounded a bit sharp. So got out the tuner and no matter how far I pulled it off the cork it was always sharp.

Had a closer look ( put specs on ) and the reed was overhanging the side rails and was too long on the back of the table.

Yup you have guessed right, it's a ******* alto mpc !!. Was advertised as a tenor so it's going back.

I suppose thats what happens when you buy an mpc off the internet from a shop that specialises in guitar equipment. :(.

I do have a cheap alto but it doesnt warrant the expense of this mpc. Waiting for shop to ring me back to sort out refund and return. Unless anyone on here wants a Lawton ALTO 7*B in good condition for what I paid for it?.
 

Merryfisher

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Well............. the mpc arrived today, full of excitement I fitted a reed, but found it wouldn't go far down the cork on the neck... tried playing it and it sounded a bit sharp. So got out the tuner and no matter how far I pulled it off the cork it was always sharp.

Had a closer look ( put specs on ) and the reed was overhanging the side rails and was too long on the back of the table.

Yup you have guessed right, it's a ******* alto mpc !!. Was advertised as a tenor so it's going back.

I suppose thats what happens when you buy an mpc off the internet from a shop that specialises in guitar equipment. :(.

I do have a cheap alto but it doesnt warrant the expense of this mpc. Waiting for shop to ring me back to sort out refund and return. Unless anyone on here wants a Lawton ALTO 7*B in good condition for what I paid for it?.

oh no! i am gutted for you - what a disapointment....guitarists for you eh?- now i know it's not just drummers!:w00t:
 

oldpuffer

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oh no! i am gutted for you - what a disapointment....guitarists for you eh?- now i know it's not just drummers!:w00t:

The shop have been fine and will refund the price plus my costs to send it back. I was very disappointed though, the mpc is a work of art. Also not such a bargain when compared to new alto ones which are a little cheaper than tenor ones. Missus just said awwwwwwwwwwww, why don't you just buy a new one !!!!!!!!!!!!!. She was impressed by the shiny gold plate methinx... happy days !!!

And no all you other male players with GAS can't have her ( the missus that is ) :p
 
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jeremyjuicewah

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Who needs to be sober on e bay with a missus like that! Congrats. I have to get furtive about two in the morning with a blanket over the screen and the man eating beagle at the living room door. Sorry for your disappointment, I thought it was a nice story. From no mpcs not so long ago I now have half a dozen second hand valued at about 750-00 quid. I love them, I am going to count them and polish them every day when I retire.
 

zannad

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The shop have been fine and will refund the price plus my costs to send it back. I was very disappointed though, the mpc is a work of art. Also not such a bargain when compared to new alto ones which are a little cheaper than tenor ones. Missus just said awwwwwwwwwwww, why don't you just buy a new one !!!!!!!!!!!!!. She was impressed by the shiny gold plate methinx... happy days !!!

And no all you other male players with GAS can't have her ( the missus that is ) :p

LOL....
I rewrite the ending for you when your missus tells you: "awwwwwww, why don't you just buy an ALTO sax then?" (my compliments...you got a near perfect partner).
 

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