Agreed!Sometimes I wonder if it is just as good to get the basic tune, without the twiddly bits, learn to play it as near perfect as you can get, then try jazzing it up, or swinging it if you want.
With you on this too...Improvisation music can give you a few ideas, but I think good impro comes from the heart.
Now here I still agree, but would like to put in my two pen'orth:I'm not too sure about all these blues and jazz scales either, does it matter what scale you improvise in, long as it doesn't clash with the backing music. Do you have to have a scale at all for impro, why not improvise using the same scale as the music?
You can add as many sharps and flats as you like, 'long as it sounds good.
Just my opinion
I have a few too...Mmmm, I got a few books, with playalong/backing tracks. If you add it all up it could get a bit expensive.
Ok, ok I'll learn some scales, BUT.........!Learning scales of all types get your fingers accustomed to patterns of notes that happen in music - learning scales frees up your thinking to concentrate on tone, intonation, dynamics and performance, so you have got to do it!
I don't think this would be possible here on the forum, as it would inevitably involve copyright infringement. (Against the rules)I have a few too...
so why don't we all list what we have and make them available to each other, The CD's aren't protected at all so the whole deal becomes much cheaper
Ok, ok I'll learn some scales, BUT.........!
Scales go up and down.... the scales...which ain't like much music Ive seen. Wouldn't it be better to practice a few easy or complex tunes in different scales to get one's ''fingers accustomed to patterns of notes"?
Now you can shoot me down:shocked:
Ok boss, point taken. Actually I have questioned the benefit of scale practice before, and you have given the first acceptable, to me, reason to do it. So, scales it is!Better to do both!!
If you're going to learn 'a few tunes' to practice the patterns, the most beneficial way to do it would be to do it in all the keys and in all the registers - scales are actually a shortcut to this since you (should) play from the bottom to the top of the instrument and back in all keys. This necessarily means that your fingers can find the adjacent notes in whatever key you're playing in, at whatever pitch.
Throw in arpeggios in all keys and you've got all the 3rds and 4ths too (which are a bit like 5ths and 6ths upside down).
Don't mean to 'shoot you down' but it's hard graft that really pays off. I recommend to the kids I teach that they do a 'five minute plan' of scales as a warmup each time they practice, and then they can forget about them for the rest of the session.
Choose five scales, spend a minute on each, and mark them according to your success rate - move on from 'perfect's and 'good's, and work on the 'messy' and 'don't know's again tomorrow.
Oh, and you will find that melodies use scales, or they wouldn't be melodies..! ;}
Yeah cheers, quite an interesting way to do it, I suppose you can mix up your scales and arpeggios in many different ways. Good way to relieve the boredom;}
Although a PITA at first, I have recently seen the light with scales. In fact, I've found that doing scales, especially difficult ones, are not only a good achievement barometer, but riffs that I've previously found impossible to play without full conscious thought and at 1/4 speed or less now become a lot easier. And that instant gratification of noticeable improvement didn't take very long to happen.Learning scales of all types get your fingers accustomed to patterns of notes that happen in music - learning scales frees up your thinking to concentrate on tone, intonation, dynamics and performance, so you have got to do it!