Guardala tenor mouthpiece mb2 wanted

[thesaxman71]

hello all,
new forum user here,
I'm looking for a Guardala tenor mouthpiece MBii, second hand or new or one of the wwbw copies or german copies if possible, (I play on a lawton 8*bb and lawton 7*bb special model, both great pieces), so if anyone out there has 1 for sale or knows where i can find please get back to me, also if anyone has tried a similar change in mouthpieces, i.e lawton to guardala, let me know how it was, i seen they both are similar in that they are approximatly 115 so hopefully the change will not be too different, tho i been on my lawton for over 20 years so who knows....
thanks.

 

[Fraser Jarvis]

Hi i may have just what your looking for, i have a WWBW Guardala MB 11 that i had a local engineering firm cut rails in so i can use a Lawton lig, it plays perfectly but the bite plate has fallen out, if you want it you can have it for £185 + £5 postage without the lig though (but you will have one anyway).

As a comparison i also have a Lawton 7*BB and a Lawton 10B the Guardala is quite a bit brighter and a LOT louder than both, probably also a bit more free blowing as well.

 

[thesaxman71]

thanks for the reply and mpc comparison, maybe too much if i got to get a bite plate made for it.

 

[Fraser Jarvis]

The easy thing to do is mix up a bit of epoxy resin and pour that in....very easy fix, i never did it as it never bothered me to be honest...

 

[Fraser Jarvis]

Heres a couple of pics....

 

[Colin the Bear]

I fixed mine with a little quicksteel and covered it with a patch, if that is any help.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Quiksteel-1...4WUO/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1361392854&sr=8-6

 

[Fraser Jarvis]

Looks good stuff Colin, wonder if that Sergoo stuff everyone takls about would be any good?

 

[Colin the Bear]

Never used it but it sounds a bit soft for a bite plate. What do they use for the original?

 

[Ivan]

Which tastes better? Sergoo or Quiksteel?

 

[Fraser Jarvis]

Personally I'd use something like a WRAS approved epoxy, think you can get it at Maplins...once cured no taste... about £4...

 

[Ivan]

This looks like is suitable to put in your mouth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6EKa9z0DiA

 

[thesaxman71]

just a note, thanks for the replies,
i now have bought a new Gaurdala MBii from wwbw, been on it a week now and i was a little deflated when i first tried it as the rovner light ligature that came with it was utter junk, slipping and not holding reed properly so i tried several new ligatures and found the "match made in mouthpiece heaven" in a rovner versa (Eddie Daniels) ligature and all i can say is wow!!! the mouthpiece is blowing like a dream, tone, control, altisimo, the full range is great, Brecker style tone but full body when needed, if anyone is thinking to get a MBii mouthpiece i STRONGLY recommend the versa ligature to use with it and throw away the useless excuse of a ligature that comes with it...

 

[thesaxman71]

update, now switched to the francois louis ultimate ligature with the mouthpiece (guardala MB2), i thought the rovner versa was nice but this is unreal, a noticable improvment and more open sound, very direct sound and very free, so to those who say ligatures do not matter, well i think it really does. in my humble opinion ;-)

 

[Fraser Jarvis]

Yes those Guardala ligs really are dire! as you say absolutely useless.....not thought about having it machined to take the Lawton lig then?

 

[Fraser Jarvis]

And yes the lig does make a difference....the guy I'm playing with tonight uses a Francois Louis ultimate on his Lawton 8b, said it makes it play brighter...

 

[Colin the Bear]

I'm of the belief that it's the fit that matters. If the ligature makes a difference then the previous one didn't fit. I had to adapt one to fit my vintage piece. Nothing fitted right. Even the one that was made for it and came with it.

 

[thesaxman71]

agreed Fraser, this louis lig is very bright, very free and Brecker heaven haha...
was thinking to get lawton rails cut into the guardala but to be honest i dont want to risk tonal changes so ligature hunting, for me, is the best and finding the louis ultimate gold (argos gold probably lol) is a revelation, maybe i was too stuck in my lawton set up til now, but i am sooooo glad i found my dream set up in m/pc and lig, oh, i am currently in Berlin, playing tonight, and got it from a sax tech shop here, negotiated a nice deal with some boxes of reeds also, nowt wrong with saving a few quid i say ;-)

 

[Fraser Jarvis]

What reeds are you using?

 

[thesaxman71]

I'm of the belief that it's the fit that matters. If the ligature makes a difference then the previous one didn't fit. I had to adapt one to fit my vintage piece. Nothing fitted right. Even the one that was made for it and came with it.

yes 100% agreed, taken me a few weeks but i have the perfect m/pc and lig combo, i even tried manipulating other ligs but was waste of time, so in my opinion if anyone is getting a brecker 2 then get a louis ultimate, unreal sound, power freedom etc etc...reeds using are rico jazz 2m...
p.s. i also played an original guardala mb2 handmade along side my new mb2
and there was zero noticable difference in sound, maybe handmade was slightly darker..real difference is only price!

 

[thesaxman71]

What reeds are you using?

using rico jazz select 2m, unfiled.