Getting to know my new tenor,Sidewinder

[daveysaxboy]

Quick take on Sidewinder,rather long but just trying to get comfy on my new tenor.This is just messing about,not a real version.
www.soundcloud.com/daveysax1

 

[Colin the Bear]

Uh oh! Soundcloud is down for me now. I'd better check if that last cheque cleared.

 

[daveysaxboy]

Uh oh! Soundcloud is down for me now. I'd better check if that last cheque cleared.

mine ok but they changed the layout i see,might be that

 

[Chris]

Davey, for me the link doesn't show your new tune, I can see and hear everything else..

Cheris..

 

[daveysaxboy]

Me thick as a whale omellete, was on private,DERRRRRRRR

 

[Merryfisher]

Quick take on Sidewinder,rather long but just trying to get comfy on my new tenor.This is just messing about,not a real version.
www.soundcloud.com/daveysax1

davey - sounds amazing! what recording set up / devices do you use for this, assuming you are using a back track for the bass/drums/keys? cheers

 

[Chris]

Me thick as a whale omellete, was on private,DERRRRRRRR

Sounds very nice Davey. That was a really good version you just posted. As for Soundcloud, don't think it was your fault. "Private" just means the general public can't find yout tracks.( Both my last two tunes are set to private.) Anyone folllowing a link should be able to..

Chris...

 

[daveysaxboy]

davey - sounds amazing! what recording set up / devices do you use for this, assuming you are using a back track for the bass/drums/keys? cheers

Sounds very nice Davey. That was a really good version you just posted. As for Soundcloud, don't think it was your fault. "Private" just means the general public can't find yout tracks.( Both my last two tunes are set to private.) Anyone folllowing a link should be able to..

Chris...

Well for 1st off its took me along time to build my tone up which you cant buy and only thousands of hard hours.My software is just Audacity,a SE 2200A condenser mic for tenor,a EV RE320 mic i just got thats great on soprano,alto,my audio interface is built in my Alesis multimix8 2.0 desk.A great Alto monitor for playback,nice headphones.LOADS of time to find this half ok sound,it will get better.Spent a bit but its worth it.Studio is soundproofed also.

Thanks Chris.I 'm really just slowly feeling my way around the horn here.Finding its sweet spots which i think are many.

 

[Colin the Bear]

Mmm this is odd . It wouldn't let me in, not even my own account, but redirected me to sign in via face book. Wouldn't accept fb password but accepted Soundcloud password........my brain hurts.

 

[daveysaxboy]

Mmm this is odd . It wouldn't let me in, not even my own account, but redirected me to sign in via face book. Wouldn't accept fb password but accepted Soundcloud password........my brain hurts.

sames here

 

[Littlewailer]

It crashed my internet trying to go to the link.

I think we're all gonna have to flip over to reverb nation one of these days.

I'm sure you sound great on your new horn.

 

[altissimo]

the new soundcloud doesn't seem to like Internet Explorer 9 - if you've selected the new soundcloud setting, you can go back to the old one by going to http://soundcloud.com/settings/extra and unselecting the 'Enable Next' box on the 'experimental feature' section near the bottom. The HTML5 Audio feature may also cause problems with some browsers.
If people are having problems logging in, then you'll have to contact them via their 'help' pages - http://help.soundcloud.com/

Sounding good, there Davey.. a lot of echo under that Chelsea Bridge.. idge.. dge.. ge..
Have you tried using the Alesis Multimix with Cubase LE yet? Just curious if you can use it to control the faders in Cubase or whether it's just a mixer with a usb audio interface built in. Nice piece of gear..
Cubase may be more complicated, but the ability to hear (and automate) multiple effects, EQ, Compression etc in the mix before you render the file is a godsend compared to the trial and error, one at a time, approach with Audacity, which was only ever intended as a stereo wav editor and not a multitrack digital audio workstation.
Although at least the new version of Audacity handles vst plugins better, even if you only get a few seconds of preview..
Having said that, you're getting good results here, Davey

 

[daveysaxboy]

the new soundcloud doesn't seem to like Internet Explorer 9 - if you've selected the new soundcloud setting, you can go back to the old one by going to http://soundcloud.com/settings/extra and unselecting the 'Enable Next' box on the 'experimental feature' section near the bottom. The HTML5 Audio feature may also cause problems with some browsers.
If people are having problems logging in, then you'll have to contact them via their 'help' pages - http://help.soundcloud.com/

Sounding good, there Davey.. a lot of echo under that Chelsea Bridge.. idge.. dge.. ge..
Have you tried using the Alesis Multimix with Cubase LE yet? Just curious if you can use it to control the faders in Cubase or whether it's just a mixer with a usb audio interface built in. Nice piece of gear..
Cubase may be more complicated, but the ability to hear (and automate) multiple effects, EQ, Compression etc in the mix before you render the file is a godsend compared to the trial and error, one at a time, approach with Audacity, which was only ever intended as a stereo wav editor and not a multitrack digital audio workstation.
Although at least the new version of Audacity handles vst plugins better, even if you only get a few seconds of preview..
Having said that, you're getting good results here, Davey

No i only use audacity at the mo,i have cubase le here that i got with the mixer but never really looked at it yet.I will in time.Just got the EV RE320 mic,Wow it works great on alto and soprano but not had results on tenor yet.Saying that my SE 2200A mic works very nice on my tenor.Yea i'm happy with the Alesis.Great bit of kit.

 

[Wade Cornell]

Nice bright lively sound with your new axe. Some good ideas in there, but I agree with you it's rough and lacking flow throughout. I like the way you make your flubs sound good though, I can't do that. Beginning very rough but excellent ideas by the end.

Don't bother with the Cubase LE, it's crap. Very un-intuitive with few parameters you can adjust for reverb (mostly presets). The professional version is good, but takes a long time to come to grips with. I think there are much better programmes that are easier to use. If you get good results in Audacity and are not trying to professionally engineer a multi-track recording why bother?

 

[daveysaxboy]

Nice bright lively sound with your new axe. Some good ideas in there, but I agree with you it's rough and lacking flow throughout. I like the way you make your flubs sound good though, I can't do that. Beginning very rough but excellent ideas by the end.

Don't bother with the Cubase LE, it's crap. Very un-intuitive with few parameters you can adjust for reverb (mostly presets). The professional version is good, but takes a long time to come to grips with. I think there are much better programmes that are easier to use. If you get good results in Audacity and are not trying to professionally engineer a multi-track recording why bother?

I agree,is not a track but just me slowly feeling my way around the ergonomics of the new horn and by the end pushing it atad to see how flexible it is.

PS, hey if ya hit a stinker just do it again,you meant it the 1st time,yeee ha

 

[altissimo]

Don't bother with the Cubase LE, it's crap. Very un-intuitive with few parameters you can adjust for reverb (mostly presets). The professional version is good, but takes a long time to come to grips with. I think there are much better programmes that are easier to use.

I only mentioned Cubase LE because that's what the Alesis Multimix comes bundled with, if you know of "much better programmes that are easier to use" why not suggest some, instead of being negative. I've not had chance to try stuff like Studio One Free, Mulab, Podium or Reaper..
"Why bother" could be applied to any activity - eg why bother playing music - but personally, I don't go for the defeatist agenda, or I'd give up breathing..

Also, if you don't like the reverb in Cubase, there's nothing to stop you installing any of the freeware VST plugins that are available -
http://bedroomproducersblog.com/201...dio-best-free-algorithmic-reverb-vst-plugins/
http://www.voxengo.com/product/oldskoolverb/
http://www.vstplanet.com/Effects/Effects.htm

the latest version of Audacity will run VST plugins a lot better than the old one. I've not tested it exhaustively, but the Kjaerhus Audio Classic Series bundle seems to work ok

Apologies to Davey for going off thread, your playing is excellent, keep up the good work..
and everyone else's playing is excellent too..!!!

 

[Wade Cornell]

Very sorry if my response offended. That was not the intent. Just a personal observation that LE is not intuitive. The plug-ins listed look like they would give you the same ability that you already have in Audacity. Why use a more difficult, less user friendly system that you don't need? Audacity lets you set all of the parameters yourself, so once you understand how to do this there is a world of subtlety available. In Le you need to bring down lists of pre-sets which you have to run through, or try to remember a few that might be close to what you want, or as you say, import another programme.

One of the easier (free on line) programmes is "Free Audio Editor" the version I have is 2011 7.3.1. There are others I'm sure, and numerous expensive programmes like Pro Tools or the Full Cubase Programme, but these take a considerable amount of time to master.

Once again very sorry if my quick response was misinterpreted. The "why bother" was specifically about why should one bother using a editing programme that is designed for multiple channel recording if you are simply putting a sax track on top of an existing backing track. Audacity works fine for this, and as said gives more direct control of most parameters.


It’s a personal opinion. If you or others learn the LE system and are happy using it, that’s fine. Hopefully you are happy with the process and results, I wasn’t.