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Getting that Dulfer Sound (Sanborn Acceptable Substitute)

Squawky

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Hello!

I am going to be performing Candy Dulfer's Lily Was Here in a few weeks on my alto for a talent competition, and, while I'm solid on notes, rhythms, etc., I'm still struggling to get that amazing sound that she achieves on the album.

See my sig for my alto setup. I'm running it all through a Samson Airline 77 wireless mic system through a Lexicon MX200 Effects Unit to add a bit of reverb and delay, going out into a PA and speaker. I also have an MXR 10-Band Graphic EQ Stompbox that I might consider running through, but I'm clueless as to which frequencies to boost/cut.

(As a side note, I'm using a Rico Metalite on my Tenor, which I like the sound of, and I'm wondering: would a Metalite or a Graftonite be a wise option for this gig?)

What do you guys recommend for getting as close to Candy's sound on Lily Was Here or even Sanborn's sound without going out and buying a Mark VI and a Dukoff D8 :)? Be it technique, mouthpiece, reed, EQ, verb/delay settings, anything. I just don't have hundreds of dollars to go out and spend, so try to keep that in mind, please.

Thanks a bunch!

Edit: I think I posted this in the wrong part of the forum. My sincerest apologies.
 
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Nick Wyver

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Don't even try. She's Candy Dulfer, you're you. Trying to imitate someone's sound is a serious waste of valuable practice time. It's only that which will improve your tone. Playing cuttingly loud needs plenty of work.
 

Jules

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First thought- Dulfer and Sanborn both sound like they play loud. To get close to that sort of tone concept you're going to have to be stick a lot of air through your sax......
 

Morgan Fry

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Play along with the record. A lot. Not necessarily the tune you're performing -- just find a chorus or so in that style that you really like and learn it and play along with it a ton. Your ears will take care of the rest.

Of course you can't help but play like yourself no matter what you do, and ultimately the goal of an artist is to express their own voice. But in the course of finding and developing that voice, we all go through a phase of emulating the artists that we enjoy the most.
 
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Squawky

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First thought- Dulfer and Sanborn both sound like they play loud. To get close to that sort of tone concept you're going to have to be stick a lot of air through your sax......
I definitely understand the bit now about putting more air through the sax. It brightens up a bit when I really blow.

Consequently, I wonder if maybe I should be using a bigger tip opening. The .76 on the JDX 6 doesn't seem to want to stay open when I really blow... Maybe I'm blowing a little too hard?
 

kevgermany

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Going to a slightly harder reed will help keep it open when you blow harder. Just make sure you don't go so hard you lose the low notes. Stiffer reed is a much cheaper option, especially if you're happy with the mouthpiece apart from this.

Things have moved from small tips/hard reeds, to bigger tips and softer reeds.
 

Squawky

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I went searching through my box of boxes of reeds, and found a Fibracell 3, which seems to provide the extra resistance so I can blow pretty hard without closing up. It works a lot better now.
 

TomMapfumo

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Candy uses a 0.095" Lebayle metal Studio 8, and Java Red 2's - so large tip/softer reed. I have a Lebayle Studio mpc on Tenor which is probably my brightest, most cutting mpc and does not need that much air, to be fair. A Metalite on Alto may be worth getting - I used to have an M7 which got that Vibe with Alexander Superial NY 2's (like the Vandoren V16's), as with a Jumbo Java A55, & Barkley Pop 8 mpc. The Metalite/ 2 strength V16's may be a better way to go, and be less exhausting!

Regards
Tom
 
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