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M/Pieces - Ligs Ed PIL NYT & NYTHB mpc

RobatBlueRock

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:confused:Anyone got any experience of these?

I was looking at the new Otto Link Vintage (old slant-sig reissue..apparently), but for the same price you can get an ED Pillinger NYT or NYTHB which I believe is pitched at this.
Which one is closer, and more suitable for Cool Jazz?
 

AlistairD

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:confused:Anyone got any experience of these?

I was looking at the new Otto Link Vintage (old slant-sig reissue..apparently), but for the same price you can get an ED Pillinger NYT or NYTHB which I believe is pitched at this.
Which one is closer, and more suitable for Cool Jazz?
Why don't you contact Ed directly? I emailed him about a re-facing and got a very prompt reply. Other people I know have had dealings with him and speak very positively about him.
 

AlistairD

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yeah, tried that a week ago but no reply yet... must be busy or something. I 'll try again.

Oddly, whenever I 'google' Ed Pillinger I get loads back on erectile disfunction for the over 40's! :shocked:
His reply got filtered out by my Spam filter so it might be worth checking yours...
 

Lupifaro

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:confused:Anyone got any experience of these?

I was looking at the new Otto Link Vintage (old slant-sig reissue..apparently), but for the same price you can get an ED Pillinger NYT or NYTHB which I believe is pitched at this.
Which one is closer, and more suitable for Cool Jazz?
Hi Rob I have an Ed Pillinger NYTHB 6* 95 tip it is not for sale but you can try it out when you pick up your BW next month:welldone i also have a JJHB 7* 105 tip; for me the EP has a smoother cool jazzy tone.I would also consider getting a secondhand Link and asking Morgan fry to Floridate it;}
 

Lupifaro

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:)))
:blush: What does that mean? something to do with cleaning it out with toothpaste perhaps?
:))) yes and dont forget to floss;} no seriously Morgan Fry uses a process to Floridate a modern link to bring it as close to a vintage Florida Link as possible check out his website:welldone
 

koumou

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I've got an Otto Link STM NY that Ed put a 7V facing on it. I've got 8 mouthpieces and this is my best mouthpiece. He is very nice to deal with
and he has all the patience to explain. 7V is the facing he encountered on an american mouthpiece.
 
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RobatBlueRock

RobatBlueRock

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Reply from Ed P

"I'm sure you understand that every player's sound is very personal, and good players can usually get this on almost any setup. However, it is possible to at least have a setup that puts you in the right ball park. A barrel chambered mouthpiece (often termed New York style) should allow you to work towards a 'Getzy' kind of sound and to that extent both my NYT and NYTHB should help you there. The NYTHB is a model intended to give a little more projection and brightness which some players feel lacking in basic Link style mouthpieces. The baffle is set a little higher at the upper end near to the tip rail. This one certainly gives a more contemporary sound I suppose. There is one other option that you may like to consider. I have made a number of mouthpieces for Jim Tomlinson which were basically reproduction 'Sumner' models (an old vintage mark not now available). They have similarities with old Meyers and Links and the original factory, before Babbit, may have had something to do with their manufacture. I've heard Jim play with one of these copies a fair bit and he can get a very Getzy tone when he wants. However he uses a close facing (4*-5*) which may not be your choice. If you can hear a clip of him playing it might help you a bit.

Most pro players choose facings between 7 and 8*. Tough, hardened players often go for 9 or 9* where the tone is modifies a lot by the open setup. As a relative beginner i would suggest 6 or 6* and wait before going wider."

I listened to some Jim Tomlinson stuff and asked Ed about the difference between the standard NYT and Jim's mpc. This was his reply....

"Jim is using either an original Sumner with a facing corrected by me, or a copy of the Sumner with 4* 5 or 5* facing. If the recordings are very recent, then he might be using an oldish Link with one of the favourite refacings (5 or5*). My NYT is very similar and should give tone and response close to this. However, the facing is crucial and I suggest not having anything too open to get this tone quality. BTW, the Sumner repro is really nice - I wouldn't rule this out."
 
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