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Was interested in the Eastman 52nd St Tenor ETS852 with DS. Tried a 652, and liked its sound. I was interested in DS mech. on the ETS852 version, but was warned that most techs will not be trained to work on it because of the new design. I’ve seen positive reviews on it, but not the support issues. Wondering if anyone has an opinion on this.
 

It's still just a horn. Most techs were not trained on all the various brands that they service. A good tech will be able to figure it out.

Ref.: Eastman 52nd Street - ETS852 - DS Mechanism - Tenor Saxophone

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Eastman is the parent company of WMS Haynes, specialist flute makers, based in Boston, and has such have enlisted the expertise of their head key designer and body maker, David Schipanui, to apply some World beating technical innovations from their flutes to this new top-series 850 range.

The big innovation on this saxophone is that the main right and left key hand action has been redesigned to offer a much more fluid and light action. This has been achieved by altering the pivot point between the feet and the regulation bar behind each stack; traditionally the contact between these two parts was directly under the bar, whereas now the contact point is on the opposite side of the bar, essentially lowering the resistance. The mechanism involved to create this system features solid square feet that align with symmetrically identical tabs on the opposing side of the regulation bar.
 
It won't be a problem. Horn manufacturers have been fiddling about with stack designs since year dot - but it really all boils down to the same requirement...the need for one key to be able to close another. As such this necessitates some form of contact between one key and another, and the repairer's sole concern is to ensure this contact point is correctly regulated so that the keys close at exactly the same time. Once you understand that principle it really doesn't matter how it's achieved - it merely boils down to how effective the mechanism is, how much of a faff it is to regulate it and, most critically, whether or not the mech sustains its regulation over a period of time.
 
Maybe WMS Haynes will sell training and certification to sax tecs - you could have a nice "52st Certified technician. Haynes University" sticker or something?
Apparently you can combine that with Health and Wellness to provide a holistic approach to leak finding (more, hole-istic)



Well, people did request more silliness in the threads
 
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Maybe WMS Haynes will sell training and certification to sax tecs - you could have a nice "52st Certified technician. Haynes University" sticker or something?
Apparently you can combine that with Health and Wellness to provide a holistic approach to leak finding (more, hole-istic)



Well, people did request more silliness in the threads
Wasn't there a "Haynes Saxophone Manual" knocking around? I wonder if the author could chip in?

Oh... he has! Any connection Steve?

Maybe all Eastman horns should go to Steve to sign the certificate? :w00t:
 
Carp fishing for health and wellness is particularly popular amongst the Hollywood elites, apparently.
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As it happens...
Had a brand new Eastman 52nd Street tenor come in today. Needs a bit of a tweak...in spite of a shop 'setup' - but initial impressions are good. Very tidy build quality, some nice features...but it remains to be seen how the pseudo-rolled toneholes fare. It's going on the bench next week for a full strip-down Stevie-Tweak setup - after which I'll be giving it the ol' review treatment.
 
As it happens...
Had a brand new Eastman 52nd Street tenor come in today. Needs a bit of a tweak...in spite of a shop 'setup' - but initial impressions are good. Very tidy build quality, some nice features...but it remains to be seen how the pseudo-rolled toneholes fare. It's going on the bench next week for a full strip-down Stevie-Tweak setup - after which I'll be giving it the ol' review treatment.
I read a review somewhere that pointed out that the horn didn’t really fit that well in the case it came in, and shipment was an issue.

Where I live in the Eastern Sierra pretty much everything has to be shipped. I did drive to Las Vegas (5+hrs) to new Yani at Kesslers, but they no ets852 52nd st horns right now. I like the 52nd st sound.
 
I read a review somewhere that pointed out that the horn didn’t really fit that well in the case it came in, and shipment was an issue.

Where I live in the Eastern Sierra pretty much everything has to be shipped. I did drive to Las Vegas (5+hrs) to new Yani at Kesslers, but they no ets852 52nd st horns right now. I like the 52nd st sound.
I didn't notice any problems with the fit of the horn (it's a rectangular case with a zipper). I wonder if it's something they've fixed?
 
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