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Beginner difference between D with speaker key and speaker key and that main side key ?

SopranoSimon

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hi, whats the diffo between making high d with side key and speaker key and normal d with speaker key?
cos normal d with speaker key sounds muffled thanks
 

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By "speaker key" I think you mean "octave key". It is the one operated by the LH thumb that opens the body octave on notes D to G# and the neck octave key on notes A and higher. The "long" D fingering played with the octave key to produce the middle D on the saxophone can be a "stuffy" note compared to others because it vents out of the low C tonehole which is followed by a closed tonehole, low C#. The other reason it has a dark, hollow sound is that it uses practically all of the body tube.
 

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Not sure i understand, speaker key? never heard of it. But middle D can sound a bit ****e sometimes, i finger low B to even things out, can use D palm as well.
 

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For me as well. I have never heard the reference "speaker key" before. On clarinet it is a "register key", on oboe and saxophone it is an "octave key", on bassoon it is a "whisper key".
 

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I don't know when I first heard it. But it's used as well as register key - and interchangably.
 

griff136

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saxophones and oboes have octave keys because when operated it will play up an octave.
this is due to the shape of the bore - basically conical
Clarinets have a register key sometimes called a speaker key and when operated it will play up the register a twelfth. their bore shape is basically cylindrical.
On Bassoons they are called whisper keys - god only knows why they're called that because most bassoons when played the keywork sounds like a typewriter! perhaps they should be called the space bar key! or perhaps they should be called what they sound like in which case for a Bassoon it should be the "farting bedpost harmonic key"
 

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On Bassoons they are called whisper keys - god only knows why they're called that because most bassoons when played the keywork sounds like a typewriter! perhaps they should be called the space bar key!

Griff,
You are very welcome back into CaSLM terroritory but if you nick my jokes regarding vintage sax engravings (Breakfast Room passim) without attribution............................................................................
 

griff136

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My apologies Bill, I will of course in future, ask first.
 

Melissa

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One of my techs uses the term speaker key on Clarinet. So how very odd.

Unfortunately (and due to some form of insanity) I cannot give you any advice, can't read the dots, play by ear- no idea what keys i'm pressing half the time- unless it is all subliminal?! I only ever really use side Bb from those keys!

I'm still waiting for one of you to come around and show me how it is done properly!?! :D
 

ProfJames

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Griff,
You are very welcome back into CaSLM terroritory but if you nick my jokes regarding vintage sax engravings (Breakfast Room passim) without attribution............................................................................

Is there no North London Massive to compete with this outfit?
 

SaxMart

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Not sure i understand, speaker key? never heard of it. But middle D can sound a bit ****e sometimes, i finger low B to even things out, can use D palm as well.
I recently found that B (lh 1st finger) and high E key with no octave key gives a clear D2 and seems pretty well in tune (well to my old ears anyway)
 

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