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Saxophones Difference between Bauhaus Walstein TS YD and TS PD?

saxmaster

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I'm looking at two different models of Bauhaus walstein one is a tenor YD and the other is a tenor PD. What is the difference?
 

MellowD

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The first is in the standard Yellow brass body and the second is the Bronze series - I have the Bronze series Alto and Soprano, whilst MLoosemoore has recently purchased the Bronze Tenor - so you could ask his opinion.

Does this cover what you needed to know? If you want more, go to www.curlywoodwind.co.uk/Tenorsax.htm and see the descriptions there.
 

saxmaster

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The first is in the standard Yellow brass body and the second is the Bronze series - I have the Bronze series Alto and Soprano, whilst MLoosemoore has recently purchased the Bronze Tenor - so you could ask his opinion.

Does this cover what you needed to know? If you want more, go to www.curlywoodwind.co.uk/Tenorsax.htm and see the descriptions there.
Wow do I feel stupid xD
Thank you I thought there was some mechanical difference.
Thinking of going with either a LA Sax Steve Goodson tenor, a Walstein, or one of the two allora saxes on wwbw.
 

saxmaster

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Not a stupid question at all! Should see some of the questions I've posted on here. Got one going at the moment about my kazoo sounding problem!!
Small world eh?
I actually posted a reply to that a few hours ago while I was bored in school :)
 

MellowD

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Wow do I feel stupid xD
Thank you I thought there was some mechanical difference.
Thinking of going with either a LA Sax Steve Goodson tenor, a Walstein, or one of the two allora saxes on wwbw.
Whilst I still love and adore my original Yani - I'm afraid I'm now very addicted to the BW Bronze series and love the ease and tone of them. Pete Thomas recommends BW too.
 

TomMapfumo

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The Bronze BW's are prettier.......!

Get one if possible. Sound wise there should be little difference.
 

MLoosemore

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Hey excitement.... my name has appeared in print :)

Seriously though when I bought the PD Bronze I asked about the difference and Pete at Windblowers felt that although there is no mechanical difference the Bronze has a slightly more mellow tone to it. As far as satisfaction is concerned I am delighted with mine. I don't have experience of the other makes you mentioned. Pete is the Manager but also primarily a technician and his opinion was that the BW's are very well built and his workshop people love working on them when they come in for Service. I mentioned John Packer and Trevor James saxes to him when I was looking as they were two others that I was considering and he said that everybody hates the JP's coming in for repairs. As for the TJ's, Windblowers do sell them but he steered me down the BW route. Glad he did.
 

Ivan

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Hey excitement.... my name has appeared in print :)
everybody hates the JP's coming in for repairs
This is echoed by Bryce in Edinburgh who recently serviced my (non-JP) tenor. He is so unhappy with JP quality he tells me he refuses to repair at all
 

MandyH

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I have a Bronze BW tenor.....I will bear other comments in mind should I ever need to take my JP bari in for a service....
or maybe I'll hope that nice santa chappie can slip a shiny new bari in my sack one year....I have been ever so good, you know! :)))
 

arya44

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I have the Bronze series Alto and Soprano
How is the bronze soprano? Do you know about CSS-PD? I'm trying to find out if the curvy design keeps the intonation as accurate as the SSS-PD (assuming SSS model is accurate enough).
Thanks.
 

arya44

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They are both absolutely fine! Just make sure that you play a decent mouthpiece.
You mentioned you use Berg Larsen 70/1 with BW soprano sax, do you get sort of the same sound out of the BW curvy as Garbarek on his Santoni Pare curvy? I thought he uses Berg 70/1 too. I know the Italian saxes are known to be sweet sounding. Would you say BW curvy can give that kind of sound too?
 

saxmaster

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You mentioned you use Berg Larsen 70/1 with BW soprano sax, do you get sort of the same sound out of the BW curvy as Garbarek on his Santoni Pare curvy? I thought he uses Berg 70/1 too. I know the Italian saxes are known to be sweet sounding. Would you say BW curvy can give that kind of sound too?
I thought the mouthpiece was the most important pics of gear in getting a certain sound, not the sax?
:p
 

TomMapfumo

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The mouthpiece does have the biggest influence on sound, but it is also the interaction between mouthpiece and sax that influences the sound according to Joe Giardullo of Soprano Planet, who worked with me on customising a Via Coro mouthpiece to help captre a Garbarek vibe. He also highlighted the importance of producing a very firm jet of air to produce such a sound and thought that the fact I also played trumpet would help this. Hence he would say that several factors go into producing such a distinct vibe, and took note of the fact that I played a BW curvy when customizing the mouthpiece, noting its similarly sweet tone!

Jan Garbarek did use a Berg 70/1 for a long time, but also played a Lebayle metal studio, and a Theo Wanne Gaia the last time I saw him - in St. David's Cathedral in Pembrokeshire, Wales. Also Pete informed me that he had also been playing a mouthpiece designed by Ed Pillinger, collaborator with the PPT mouthpieces (he is the first "P" in "PPT").

Hope this helps!
Tom
 

Colin the Bear

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I had my long held opinion that the mouthpiece and player combination is the major influence on sound challenged and shattered recently.

I picked up a vintage Lelandais m/piece recently. The sound I get out of the G4M tenor is rich , dark , full and loud. At the recent local Manchester meet I had the chance to try it on a couple of different instruments. I was expecting big things but it amazed me how thin it sounded. The modern S80 on the same sax out classed it completely.

I'm now firmly of the opinion that it's a combination of player, instrument, reed and mouthpiece. Which would seem to be quite obvious really.

The right mouthpiece for the individual player, on the right saxophone for that combination, with a good reed, in an acoustically sympathetic venue for the piece you're playing with the right feel, seems to be what's required for optimum sound on the day.


And it may be different tomorrow.
 

MLoosemore

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...The right mouthpiece for the individual player, on the right saxophone for that combination, with a good reed, in an acoustically sympathetic venue for the piece you're playing with the right feel, seems to be what's required for optimum sound on the day.


And it may be different tomorrow.
Oh bother..... not much chance of me achieving that then....
 
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