Saxophones David's interesting finds - Sioma Tenor and Selmer MP - £50

[DavidUK]

Spotted this and messaged the seller to find out more (and to buy it for £50 of course!)...

Although the mouthpiece has a Berg liature it appears to be a Selmer Classic.

Anyone have any idea of the more realistic value of the sax, mouthpiece, and ligature?

The seller is aware he has listed it too cheaply as he's been inundated with messages and is re-thinking the sale price. I offered my (your) help as he doesn't know saxophones.

Anyone?

NB. I have no connection with the seller, just spotted the ad.

 

[DavidUK]

Another MP photo...

 

[Jez Watson]

Mouthpiece is from the 50’s, it’s the Classic?

 

[stitch]

I reckon it's a C Melody. The bell comes a long way up the body, and it's not a good fit in the tenor(?) case.

 

[Trigger]

The lig will sell for £50 on its own

 

[DavidUK]

Mouthpiece is from the 50’s, it’s the Classic?

Yes. As shown here: Selmer Mouthpieces - Theo Wanne

Value?

 

[DavidUK]

The lig will sell for £50 on its own

I reckoned £30-80.

 

[DavidUK]

I reckon it's a C Melody. The bell comes a long way up the body, and it's not a good fit in the tenor(?) case.

Any other way of telling if it's a C-Mel?
If it is, I guess it's just about worthless.
As a tenor, I thought £50-100 as it'll cost £400-600 to overhaul and then you'd have a sax worth... £200-300?
As a C-Mel, same overhaul costs, but only a serious Sioma collector is going to want it, and how many of them have you bumped into?

 

[Colin the Bear]

I've seen those mouthpieces go for around £200 in perfect condition. It's silver plated brass, so may or may not clean up nicely.
If the horn is a Mel C I'm guessing a home repairer, wanting one to play, would be interested.

 

[Trigger]

I sold a alto mpc version for £150 but it did have original lig and cap and it was a quick sale on sotw so you’d probably get £250

 

[stitch]

Any other way of telling if it's a C-Mel?

A C-Melody stands 24 - 26"tall (sans neck) vs 28+" for a tenor. Harder to tell if it's LP though, but with a serious m/p I'd assume it's seen some proper use, which it might not have done if HP, so on balance probably(?) is.

but only a serious Sioma collector is going to want it

Don't we know one of those?

 

[DavidUK]

@RichardB ?

 

[stitch]

If it is, I guess it's just about worthless.

Certainly worth £50 I'd say.

If the horn is a Mel C I'm guessing a home repairer, wanting one to play, would be interested.

Exactly.

Is there a consensus on which horn Siomas are stencilled from?

 

[DavidUK]

We had this before... some info here:

https://www.saxontheweb.net/threads/info-request-on-sioma-paris.12027/#post-2864985

 

[stitch]

some info here:

So potentially a decent sax if French (Pierret/Guenot), jury out if Italian?

 

[stitch]

What was the outcome @DavidUK ? Did you buy it?

 

[DavidUK]

No. I would have at £50 the lot but the seller twigged when he was inundated with buyers.