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kevgermany

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Zannie, the basic rule is that each scale has A,B,C,D,E,F,G and each letter occurs only once. It can be sharp or flat instead of natural. So in the scale of C#, C is already taken. And the note below it has to be B. As it's a full tone from B to C#, the B must be sharpened to get the semi tone up to C#, hence it's B# and not C.

It's a natural consequence of us using a scale as the base of our music, and the scale has unevenly spaced notes.

Confusing at first, but much more logical as you play more and in different keys.
 

zannie

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Oh I know, my point is I thoroughly agree with the poster I quoted - if I'm playing/singing something in a certain key, if the wrong enharmonics are used it scrambles my brain, especially if it's something I'm sightreading/learning because it helps you understand where the piece is going. An F# in a Db piece when it should be a Gb would be most discombobulating.
 

Dibbs

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Sometimes it can get ridiculous. I came across this weird attempt at correctness a while ago. Note how the G# on the F7#9 changes to Ab on the Bb7.

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jbtsax

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Sometimes it can get ridiculous. I came across this weird attempt at correctness a while ago. Note how the G# on the F7#9 changes to Ab on the Bb7.

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I would have considered it wrong if it had not been written that way. Music is written to be harmonically correct, not for the convenience of the player. :)
 

Pete Thomas

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Sometimes it can get ridiculous. I came across this weird attempt at correctness a while ago. Note how the G# on the F7#9 changes to Ab on the Bb7.

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That looks wrong, I would have Ab all the way through. It's a blues, the obvious thing is to have a flattened 3rd.

In this case I would have that chord symbol as a F7 - there is no need to have an extansion because that is the melody.

But if youm do have an extension then b10 is better in this case than #9 - especially now that Mr Aebersaold has broken the chord symbol system and made everyone thing that when you have a #9 then you automatically have a # or b 5, patently not the case in a simple blues like this one.

BTW, @Dibbs what is that tune (rif) called? Iyt's like the Austin Powers riff but I wonder if it preceded that. I'd be interested to know.
 
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