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allansto

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Hi guys and gals
Im having difficulty counting in 2/4 bars

Ive got a tune that i need to count 8 beats in a few bars
counting 1+++2+++ doesnt do it for me

I can count some music by mentaly thinking 1&2&3&4& etc
but im not working with a 4/4 signiture

some people count by 1&+ 2&+
Thats not enough counts for this piece

What terms can I mentally think of.....to count 8 notes in a 2/4 time
Regards
Allansto
 

TomMapfumo

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One - e - and - uh, Two - e - and - uh, One - e - and -uh, Two - e - and - uh ...............................

Next...................................
 

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One - e - and - uh, Two - e - and - uh, One - e - and -uh, Two - e - and - uh ...............................

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That's what I was taught too:)
 

Chris

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Try using 'a' and not 'uh'. 1-e-and-a, 2-e-and-a ..

Chris..
 

TomMapfumo

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Try using 'a' and not 'uh'. 1-e-and-a, 2-e-and-a ..

Chris..

Why? - how does it sound when you say it? Mine sounds more like uh than ay or ar.
Mine is written as it sounds when I pronounce it out loud, as "a" can be pronounced in several ways.........:thumb:

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Tom
 

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A teenager in band rehearsal said to me one day: " remember subdivision is your friend" it took me ages to work out what he meant....I eventually realised that the word "subdivision" has 4 equal syllables, but I was originally taught the "one eee and aaa, two eee and aaa" as suggested above.
 

BigMartin

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For me, the only way to get a tricky rhythm is to play it really s-l-o-w-l-y. Slow enough to put your metronome on 8 in a bar (or more if necessary) and count ONE-two-three-four-TWO-two-three-four (how come you can't capitalise numerals?). Then, when you've really got the sound of the rhythm in your head, you can speed up and count four in a bar, and eventually two (or one depending how fast you want to go). Unless you're talking about sight reading, in which case just ignore me.
 

TomMapfumo

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What is wrong with: ONE big martin, TWO big martin................................;}
 

Colin the Bear

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Could we possibly count it Tom map fu mo, tom map fu mo lol.

Who'd a thought regional accents would come into the count?
 

TomMapfumo

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At least I am practising my cornet between posts..........
 

Chris

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Oh the joys of text and not the spoken word yet again.>:) Keep the 'a' as short as possible..I was taught this over 30 yrs ago..

Chris...
 

Colin the Bear

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Oh the joys of text and not the spoken word yet again.>:) Keep the 'a' as short as possible..I was taught this over 30 yrs ago..

Chris...

Keep the a short, keep the a short, keep the a short...yep that works too.
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trimmy

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All dis countin is doin me ed in :confused: am all comfuffilated
 

Justin Chune

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I don't count crochets or anything less. Also, I never count any beat on which I commence a note, so I would play that pattern without counting anything at all. I play runs of semi quavers to sound like didi didi.

Jim.
 
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allansto

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well thanks for all your suggestions guys
I think I`ll go with 1234 2234 to start with and try that I`ll let you know what works best for me
Regards
Allansto.
 

TimboSax

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So now I've got to count, as well as remembering which keys to twiddle, as well as remembering when to breathe in and when to blow out?

That's multitasking, I'm not very good at multitasking...
 

Colin the Bear

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And yet you maintain body temperature, breathe in and out and keep your heart beating while blinking, sweating and digesting your lunch. No need for multi tasking. Figure out how it goes and play it like that. :sax:
 

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