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Sinne

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Hello all,

I felt inspired by mr. Thomas' article about the super cheap clip-on mic (with the charming deluxe clothes peg) to try and search for a very low priced 'standing' mic. I live in Europe and had no luck trying to find that Realistic 33-1063 Electret Tie Pin unit online, so I went to good ol' Thomann.de and checked out their cheapest 'sax' mics.

The search results (ascending in price) include the following mics:
- the t.bone BD 200 (€24,90) supercardioid, 20 - 16.000 hz
- the t.bone MB 75 (€32,00) dynamic sm57 copy(?)
- Superlux D10B (€35,00) dynamic supercardoid, 50 - 16.000 hz
- the t.bone BD 300 (€49,00) dynamic mic designed for bass (drum), 20 - 10.000 hz
- AKG Perception Live P4 (€75,00) dynamic cardioid, 40 - 18.000 hz

I was planning on testing these on soprano sax and clarinet in a couple of months (perhaps tenor too some day?). The fact that one could buy a whole bunch of these instead of one single big-brand mic does sound appealing. Of course it might all just be very disappointing.

But another, far more personal reason why I consider these is the vast ammount of live looping and echo I would like to unleash at (potentially loud) live gigs. In that scenario, I hope the saxophone sound will still be very distinguishably a saxophone, though it will most likely be a thin line between a saxy soundscape and utter chaos. Supposedly, when loops and echo's kick in, the difference between a half-decent and a great mic might not be heard at all... The bigger issue will be fighting the feedback. However, beside my own silly reasons for going cheap, I can imagine others being intrigued by very cheap mics too. Speaking for myself, I'm low on cash anyway. :{p

So if any of you have any experience considering these, or other mics in the same price range, do tell! I'll try to post reviews once I get all sorts of equipment together, which may take some time.
 

Colin the Bear

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I must admit that I have upgraded to a cheaper microphone. Tracks less than a year old are made using

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00CRASVFC?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00

I clip it to the side of the bell using a piece of foam which helps mask key noise, open Audacity on the laptop, with the mic in the hole marked mic. Select headphone mic, adjust the level and blow. It records on one side, so split the stereo track, erase the blank track, duplicate the one with the sound on and make the two tracks stereo. It takes a lot longer to type it than to do it. I sometimes add compression but lately I haven't. I usually add reverb to try to match the backing track or for a subway effect.

I'm having a lot of success with the Thomann T bone for live work. It sounds pretty good, it looks the part for the stuff I do and I find it easy to use when switching from sax to vocals. The size of room I play is usually small enough to play the sax acoustically . I've tried recording sax with it but it lacks a certain something. I do use it for recording vocals.
 

Matabayahsi

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I must admit that I have upgraded to a cheaper microphone. Tracks less than a year old are made using

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00CRASVFC?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00

I clip it to the side of the bell using a piece of foam which helps mask key noise, open Audacity on the laptop, with the mic in the hole marked mic. Select headphone mic, adjust the level and blow. It records on one side, so split the stereo track, erase the blank track, duplicate the one with the sound on and make the two tracks stereo. It takes a lot longer to type it than to do it. I sometimes add compression but lately I haven't. I usually add reverb to try to match the backing track or for a subway effect.

I'm having a lot of success with the Thomann T bone for live work. It sounds pretty good, it looks the part for the stuff I do and I find it easy to use when switching from sax to vocals. The size of room I play is usually small enough to play the sax acoustically . I've tried recording sax with it but it lacks a certain something. I do use it for recording vocals.

:O :O it really doesnt sound bad for 1.41£ I shall give this a try as soon as I get back to the UK
 

Matabayahsi

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Colin the Bear

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The disadvantages of a clip on are key noise and your instrument being tethered to whatever you have the mic plugged in to. A mic on a stand is versatile and you can move in and out for loud and quiet passages.
 

Colin the Bear

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Fingers crossed I get the battery one. No need to go shopping for phantom power then . I still can't hear the phrase phantom power without thinking of marvel comics.
 

Matabayahsi

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The disadvantages of a clip on are key noise and your instrument being tethered to whatever you have the mic plugged in to. A mic on a stand is versatile and you can move in and out for loud and quiet passages.

I think if you know what you are doing it can be beneficial but I have this very annoying experience with a sax player who didnt know what he was doing on stage and we recorded the whole concert from the mixer but he is so close to the mic that nobody else can be heard it is just this very loud saxophone which ruined everything for us!
 

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