Tech/maintenance Changing the color of brass

jbtsax

R.I.P. in memoriam 1947 - 2023
I actually stumbled upon this idea by accident while "cooking" a bari sax to remove the old nitro cellulose lacquer. It turned out that the areas where the lacquer had flaked off were a beautiful golden color, not the bright yellow brass look one would expect. The bell brace below was buffed and degreased and then boiled in a sauce pan for 20 minutes. The longer you boil the brass, the darker it becomes up to a point. The pictures below show the before and after.

Bow guard A.jpg
Bow guard B.jpg
 
You've stumbled upon what's known as a 'hot process patination'.

You can achieve a wide range of patinas on brass depending on what chemicals you use, and whether they're applied cold or hot.
In this case the (few) impurities in the water coupled with those that were washed off the brass have resulted in a very weak patination solution. A similar process is to place the brass in an oven with a dish containing a predetermined solution of chemicals - which subsequently evaporate and form a 'tarnishing gas'.
Vinegar is a cheap and safe patinator - and if you have a lump of brass spare, and you don't mind filling the house/workshop with the smell of a chip shop, it's a good way to see just how much the appearance of brass can be changed.

The problem with such techniques is that they're often impractical. That lovely patina you've achieved will be shot to pieces when the time comes to solder the part to the horn...and if you want to get the finish back you'll be facing the prospect of trying to get the whole horn into a pot of boiling water.
They're also somewhat unpredictable - and if you're trying to match an existing patina it usually ends up being a completely frustrating exercise in trial and error.

Cold process patinators are rather more useful for spot colouring, though it's still very much an inexact art...and when it goes wrong it tends to go horribly wrong.

I've had some good results using a heat-and-quench method, whereby the part is heated with the gas torch and then quenched with a rag soaked in a solution of various liquids (black tea, engine oil, dilute household cleaners, rusty water etc.). The big advantage of this method is that it allows you to blend the new patina in with the existing.
If you're lucky.
 
Actually the part was boiled in distilled water containing no mineral content, so my conclusion is that heat alone created the transformation in color. Your point about soldering is well taken. The plan is to use low temperature "Tix Solder" and hope for the best.

If the soldering does change the look of the part, plan "B" will be to buff the part again and to color it using
Jax Gold Finish in a 50% solution prior to adding a coat of clear Nikolas Lacquer.
 
If I put my brass kitchen scales bowl in the dishwasher it often comes out a pleasing lemon hue

But sometimes it's a dark rose gold patina

I've not found a link between the colour and what we had for supper
 

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