Playing Candy uses a vibrato on her pieces

[AlanB]

:shocked:🙂))Hello out there. No this is not a tag line for one of those "special" sites. Can anyone suggest a good way to get the kind of wobble or trill of the F (for tenor) that Candy Dulfer's horn section are getting on 'Pick Up The Pieces". For example here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76kd984x5bU

It sound pretty cool. Is it a very fast vibrato/bending or a key trill or what?
Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

 

[thomsax]

There are many ways to do a "thrill":

Pete Thomas website: The Adderley thrill

Other sources to this subject: John Laughter's book, "Rock & Roll Saxophone", and Mark "Deke" McGee, "Learn To Play Rhythm 'n' Blues Saxophone".

When it comes to "Funky Thrills", I think one of the masters is Maceo Parker (James Brown). His altissimo thrills are amazing!

Thomas

 

[half diminished]

:shocked:🙂))Hello out there. No this is not a tag line for one of those "special" sites. Can anyone suggest a good way to get the kind of wobble or trill of the F (for tenor) that Candy Dulfer's horn section are getting on 'Pick Up The Pieces". For example here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76kd984x5bU

It sound pretty cool. Is it a very fast vibrato/bending or a key trill or what?
Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

I never noticed it........... somehow I always seem distracted watching her perform

 

[thomsax]

I've watching the clip a couple of times. Where on the clip is the "thrill-like" part? Candy Dulfer is a great player. She is using some other rocksaxeffects during the solo.

Thomas

 

[AlanB]

Thomas,

It is not really Candy, put her horn section, in the main theme...so the very first phrase 2nd bar on the long Fs.

BbDAG FCED CFGF__E DE F__E DE

Just can figure out whether to do an exaggerated vibrato with 'F' down or a single key trill on and off the 'F' key.
Cheers,
Alan

 

[cwillsher]

I'm hearing just a little 'turn' on the F - so above and below the key note.

 

[AlanB]

I'm hearing just a little 'turn' on the F - so above and below the key note.

Ummm...What's a "little'turn'"?

 

[Saxlicker]

Sorry...
Taking the thread off at a slight tangent but this convinced me Candy is great.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3Fa3XfSn1I

 

[cwillsher]

This page will help but in my own words....

In written music it would normally be signified by a sign (like a sideways 'S') above the note and is a musical 'ornament' similar to a 'mordent', if you are familiar with those?

The turn sign means to play a quick succession of notes as follows:
The written note followed by the note diatonically (within the scale) above that, then the key note again followed by the note diatonically below, and back to the key note again.

In this case they are using a pentatonic scale and it's not quite a 'turn', in that they don't return to the key note for the last time. In short, it's F-G-F-D played as fast as you might play a trill.

To confuse you further, I'm now thinking it's actually more like an 'upper mordent', where the first F is played longer, with a little flick onto the G and back again, before playing the D. Like a single note trill.

It's much easier to play it than to explain it. Have a go, I'm sure you'll get the idea. ;o)

 

[AlanB]

Thanks very much for that explanation. Very interesting. I thought it might be something like that, because while I am getting a similar nice effect with exaggerated jaw-bending, it is not as pronounced as on that video. The full tone up and down represented by you explanation of the 'turn' would really increase that movement. I'll give it a go! Thanks a lot for your help.
Al

 

[AlanB]

Sorry...
Taking the thread off at a slight tangent but this convinced me Candy is great.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3Fa3XfSn1I

Lovely! Technically brilliant and full of character! Smoooooth.:welldone
If I wanted to listen to smooth sax, I would choose this a thousand times over that bloke with the hair.
Al
P.S. Oh I made a mistake ...of course the Average White Band played this in concert C where as Candy is playing the piece in Eb. So the 'turn' would be Ab.....Bb Ab F for the Candy Dulfer version on Tenor, and F....G F D if I wanted to do the same thing with the AWB's version. Am I correct?

 

[John Laughter]

Anyone know what brand of wireless mic she is using on the clip? Nice sound!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3Fa3XfSn1I

 

[kevgermany]

I was wondering what sax she's playing.

 

[Saxlicker]

One of these,

http://www.inderbinen.com

 

[kevgermany]

Thanks. I wondered, but wanted to ask.

 

[cwillsher]

P.S. Oh I made a mistake ...of course the Average White Band played this in concert C where as Candy is playing the piece in Eb. So the 'turn' would be Ab.....Bb Ab F for the Candy Dulfer version on Tenor, and F....G F D if I wanted to do the same thing with the AWB's version. Am I correct?

Yes, that would sound about right!