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"Inside out" by the Brecker brothers.

I did this originally for SOTW TOTM which Davey picked (great choice) and thought i would give it a play over here too.
not the usual swing or 'standard' tune but more what i am into and play on gigs, sessions etc etc, i felt right at home on this tune enabling me to play the more funky edgy side and nice to let rip a little sometimes, vent some steam.
On soprano i added a wah-wah effect to make it more authentic sounding and emulating the trumpet effect in the original tune and on tenor no effects apart from a little bit of reverb on both saxes.
All feedback and comments are welcome!
cheers
Ian

youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr89bQHX3hI&feature=player_detailpage

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Lovely version as always Ian. You did set yourself a high benchmark a while ago. You do have one of the best sop tones I've heard in a while.:thumb:

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Nice modern stuff.A fun track indeed to blow on.Good job dude.
naah, thank you for choosing it for totm, gave me a chance to do what i like best. must say i dig the sop with a bit wah wah, never bothered before with it til now but i like having the tenor solo as is, unpoluted lol.
 
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I just can't see the point of demonstrating how to use every note available on the saxophone even if you don't need them .....sorry .....John
 

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I just can't see the point of demonstrating how to use every note available on the saxophone even if you don't need them .....sorry .....John
ok, but it is called "technique" and incorporating them notes, overtones etc cos i felt i DID need them and in keeping with good context of the music,(if you take time to listen to the original you will see)...
I could of just "played safe" but i wanted to do something more from inside me, not wrong to express oneself and do something different is it or we could all play the same way and that would be boring and predictable, not something i want. :)
without being rude, not intended, usually those who don't have the understanding of saxophone technical ability (and dismiss it as is different to the norm) in most cases "can't see the point" and proceed to plod safely on without stretching themselves.
 
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ok, but it is called "technique" and incorporating them cos i felt i DID need them and in keeping with good context of the music...(if you take time to listen to the original you will see)
usually those who have little to no technique or don't have the understanding of saxophone technical ability (and dismiss what is different to them) "can't see the point" and proceed to plod safely on without stretching themselves.

good day.

I'm sorry I seem to have hurt your feelings maybe I should have added that I have listened to a few of your other sop pieces and liked them a lot where you seem to have resisted the urge to go into Brecker mode, a player I know you admire tremendously and one whom I can appreciate is a tremendous technician but unfortunately one that I find very hard to listen to as it appears to be exploring every dot on a tv screen rather than watching the film which would be a pointless exercise,I'm sorry you feel it necessary to belittle my abilities to make your point ......John
 

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I'm sorry I seem to have hurt your feelings maybe I should have added that I have listened to a few of your other sop pieces and liked them a lot where you seem to have resisted the urge to go into Brecker mode, a player I know you admire tremendously and one whom I can appreciate is a tremendous technician but unfortunately one that I find very hard to listen to as it appears to be exploring every dot on a tv screen rather than watching the film which would be a pointless exercise,I'm sorry you feel it necessary to belittle my abilities to make your point ......John
You have 100% not hurt my feelings in any way and i respect you not liking everything i do, we all like different things and that is fine also I never intentionally belittled your ability, as you seem to feel, as i clearly stated when i said "without being rude, not intended," as i only suggested, in general, people tend to shrug off things that are different and/or not fully understanding, i have done this myself in the past and if you took that personally then that was not the intention, as i clearly stated and outlined before i went on about technique!

As a side note, in general, before i am accused at belittling anyone this is NOT aimed at you or anyone in particular, just most Brits, as the British way of thinking is that when someone displays an ability or talent then they are in general viewed as either showing off or doing something over the top, or just plain wrong, the British mentality is "unique" (stupid in real life terms) as most countries do not think so negative and actually nurture those abilities unlike the Brits who just like to dismiss something "different", again Brits are viewed by most countries as general moaners, i learned this being a Brit who has lived and gigged around Europe for some time now.

anyway, let's all live in peace and do our own thing with music, no rights or wrongs, just plain old enjoying making music.
 
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Impressive and I enjoyed it immensely.

I have even posted the youtube link to friends via facebook... now I don't do that often...
 

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Impressive and I enjoyed it immensely.

I have even posted the youtube link to friends via facebook... now I don't do that often...
wow i am very flattered, thank you for sharing it with others, feel free to do that anytime and once again i must thank you for appreciating my efforts.
 

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As a side note, in general, before i am accused at belittling anyone this is NOT aimed at you or anyone in particular, just most Brits, as the British way of thinking is that when someone displays an ability or talent then they are in general viewed as either showing off or doing something over the top, or just plain wrong, the British mentality is "unique" (stupid in real life terms) as most countries do not think so negative and actually nurture those abilities unlike the Brits who just like to dismiss something "different", again Brits are viewed by most countries as general moaners, i learned this being a Brit who has lived and gigged around Europe for some time now.

anyway, let's all live in peace and do our own thing with music, no rights or wrongs, just plain old enjoying making music.

As a Cornish, Irish and Scots composite I could watch this with amusement, snug behind the Cornish border...

...however, your generalisation is tarring many good people with the same brush. It is always the unspeakable minority which gets the majority a bad name. It's a type of mentality which is the problem, more numerous in the centre of empire but also extant in perceived beleaguered outposts. Look at any empire -former, declining or building - and the sort you describe will have far more influence that either their numbers or point of view warrant.

Some of what you describe is begrudgerism (as so accurately described by Breandan O'hEithir in The Begrudgers Guide to Irish Politics) which is clearly not confined to Brits (an ambiguous term at best). I am sure that begrudgers exist in,say, China...

I agree 100% with your last statement. Keep blowing!
 
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As a Cornish, Irish and Scots composite I could watch this with amusement, snug behind the Cornish border...

...however, your generalisation is tarring many good people with the same brush. It is always the unspeakable minority which gets the majority a bad name. It's a type of mentality which is the problem, more numerous in the centre of empire but also extant in perceived beleaguered outposts. Look at any empire -former, declining or building - and the sort you describe will have far more influence that either their numbers or point of view warrant.

Some of what you describe is begrudgerism (as so accurately described by Breandan O'hEithir in The Begrudgers Guide to Irish Politics) which is clearly not confined to Brits (an ambiguous term at best). I am sure that begrudgers exist in,say, China...

I agree 100% with your last statement. Keep blowing!
yeah ya probably right but sadly i just seem to discover the minority have gave us Brits a bad name as moaners etc haha
 

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Hi Saxman

As you may see from my previous post the whole of your original post was shown above my reply without editing and it was that I made comment on and not your later edited post, you must admit that from the tone of it and its content that you appeared somewhat rattled by my original remarks on your piece which I only commented on because there was an invitation to do just that underneath the you tube posting.

I would like to say that I have a very open mind about all music and indeed life in general and would never consider someone displaying incredible technical ability as showing off after all what's the point of honing those skills if you don't do just that,my original comment was purely about that one piece of music which started very nicely and then if you don't mind me saying went into the Brecker style which I suppose it had to being one of there pieces, that although technically brilliant by anyone's standard gives little in listening pleasure to me anyway, I doubt that even if I was so technically proficient as you that it would be a style I would be drawn to.

Peace to you too this is probably why I keep most of my comments to the back slapping variety ....John
 

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Hi Saxman

As you may see from my previous post the whole of your original post was shown above my reply without editing and it was that I made comment on and not your later edited post, you must admit that from the tone of it and its content that you appeared somewhat rattled by my original remarks on your piece which I only commented on because there was an invitation to do just that underneath the you tube posting.

I would like to say that I have a very open mind about all music and indeed life in general and would never consider someone displaying incredible technical ability as showing off after all what's the point of honing those skills if you don't do just that,my original comment was purely about that one piece of music which started very nicely and then if you don't mind me saying went into the Brecker style which I suppose it had to being one of there pieces, that although technically brilliant by anyone's standard gives little in listening pleasure to me anyway, I doubt that even if I was so technically proficient as you that it would be a style I would be drawn to.

Peace to you too this is probably why I keep most of my comments to the back slapping variety ....John
no problem and i am guessing you replied to my unedited version and i can see how that came across wrong from my side, not intended, and you got your reply in as i was probably editing it after i read it back, as i looked and thought to myself it did come across stroppy from me, so that is why i edited imediately, as i was not intending to be that way :)

It is only words and no harm has been done to man or beast :)
 
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Oh no! I was just about to have a good moan at a Pruple Yahama blower!!!!! :) I liked your wah wah stuff. Although not my style of music you are obviously very talented and can even produce a good sound with a below par horn!!!!
 

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Oh no! I was just about to have a good moan at a Pruple Yahama blower!!!!! :) I liked your wah wah stuff. Although not my style of music you are obviously very talented and can even produce a good sound with a below par horn!!!!
thanks and your below par comments are welcome ;)
 

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Great stuff Ian, not really listened to the Brecker bros, might have a bit of an explore now!

Only suggestion I'd make is to tame the sax recordings slightly. For me, both tenor and sop stood out a bit too much from the BT. I'd have had a go at knocking off some of the top end just to warm them up a bit, with an aim to blending them in a bit more, and make it sound more like everything was recorded together.
 

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Great stuff Ian, not really listened to the Brecker bros, might have a bit of an explore now!

Only suggestion I'd make is to tame the sax recordings slightly. For me, both tenor and sop stood out a bit too much from the BT. I'd have had a go at knocking off some of the top end just to warm them up a bit, with an aim to blending them in a bit more, and make it sound more like everything was recorded together.
thanks for listening, Breckers are great and they got loads you can find on youtube, enjoy....yeah, i agree about the saxes being a bit up in the mix, was also thinking that too, might remix them.
 

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Enjoyed very much, especially tenor

(The wahwah soprano effect gave me motion sickness)
 
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