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If @randulo uses his audio file with the unusual chords, BiaB may come up with some interesting chords that are similar-sounding and it does know how to deal with.
Interesting, Rhys! I imported midi, but it didn't "hear" the right chords. I need to mess a lot more with it, but that cuts into my practice time and right now I'm on a roll with that.
 
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Cover your ears, @Wade Cornell (or eyes?).

Is there a repertory of standards in BiaB format, as there is for iReal Pro? Incidentally, thanks to @Pete Effamy I found out you can render in separate tracks. I never knew that and it makes things a lot better, more flexible to mix and you could add effects or turn a track on and off.

Found this:

 
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A couple of sources I know of, but the standards of the standards varies a lot (i.e. don't always trust the changes or the key or the melody or the taste of the creator).


Just Chords: BiaB Resources

Norton Music Table of Contents

I think if you search around you will find more, but sites come and go and there is a lot of overlap in material covered and actual files provided.

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Cover your ears, @Wade Cornell (or eyes?).

Is there a repertory of standards in BiaB format, as there is for iReal Pro? Incidentally, thanks to @Pete Effamy I found out you can render in separate tracks. I never knew that and it makes things a lot better, more flexible to mix and you could add effects or turn a track on and off.

Found this:

It is possible to export from iReal Pro to BiaB. It tried it once but somehow the ending of the song was a bit messed up. There could be a setting or some settings in BiaB which resolve this. Rather than lose some of my life trying to find out how to fix it, I just manually entered the changes into BiaB.
 
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BiaB is complicated on endings for sure. I haven't seen how to export from iReal? I know I was able to dump the entire collection when I changed computers.
 

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Is there a repertory of standards in BiaB format, as there is for iReal Pro? Incidentally, thanks to @Pete Effamy I found out you can render in separate tracks. I never knew that and it makes things a lot better, more flexible to mix and you could add effects or turn a track on and off.
Here's another one. But some of the arrangements are poor.
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It is possible to export from iReal Pro to BiaB. It tried it once but somehow the ending of the song was a bit messed up. There could be a setting or some settings in BiaB which resolve this. Rather than lose some of my life trying to find out how to fix it, I just manually entered the changes into BiaB.
Can you remember how you exported from iReal Pro to BIAB?
 

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Can you remember how you exported from iReal Pro to BIAB?
If I remember correctly (I don't have my iPad with me at the moment).... I think there's a "share" button somewhere in iReal Pro, which gives you the option to select MusicXML format. These can be opened by BiaB, but I'm not certain they are fully (or correctly) supported. I only tried with a single song - maybe there's a way to export the whole library. Or, maybe there's a way to export the Jazz 1350 Standards song list directly from the iRealb forum in MusicXML, but I haven't found it ...
 
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@Mark Hancock what I do know is that there's an HTML output to dump all or as much as you like to one file.
 
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On the MacOS version. It allows you to move (share).

Backup! It's called.
 
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So what's funny is that BiaB "Import" doesn't include XML files, but "Open Special" does! And I thought music notation was hard. BiaB interface is one of the toughest challenges of the 20th century! (Let alone, the 21st)
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Greetings, BiaB users. Here's something I just discovered that should solve most of the problems I have grumbled about mentioned.

Exporting to MIDI
Don't know why this hadn't occurred to me earlier, but using "Save special"->"Save as a MIDI file" is the answer to all my thoughts and prayers.

Importing to Logic (or other software)
In Logic, I just open the MIDI file. It uses sounds determined by some MIDI tables, but basically, the instruments are very easy to change. In Logic, you can then:
  • Change the bass sound
  • Add a Logic drummer track or modify the existing track
  • change the harmony (one of my main pet peeves was that you can't easily use quartal harmony in comping)
  • make arrangement changes to get better intros, accents, punches, shots, etc
For example, you may like the bass line but want it to double the saxophone at a certain moment.
  • duplicate a track to use at the same time on another sound (unison, a fifth or octave or any interval)
  • add, remove or change effects
  • add, remove or change notes, obviously
  • change tempo or groove within the song

Change anything on any track!

Ok, yes, it's a lot of work to get what you want, but still easier than herding cats getting people to play your music together.
 
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