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TimboSax

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Been meaning to do a version on this great haunting track this week. Its very nice. Your in the vibe for sure. Sounding nice to my big ears. Fine job here.
 
You are improving fast.
Very musical.
My opinionated opinion is: get rid of vibrato and lipping to look for tuning, before it is too late.
Is that Ed's mouthpiece? You have a very deep sound with it.
 
Been meaning to do a version on this great haunting track this week. Its very nice. Your in the vibe for sure. Sounding nice to my big ears. Fine job here.

Thanks Davey. Get recording, I'd like to hear your take!

You are improving fast.
Very musical.
My opinionated opinion is: get rid of vibrato and lipping to look for tuning, before it is too late.
Is that Ed's mouthpiece? You have a very deep sound with it.

Thanks Aldevis. By lipping, do you mean what I'm calling the swooping? If so, I agree, I can listen back and hear that it fits in some places, sparingly, but not in others, and I am making a conscious effort to control it!

The vibrato is something I've been trying to control for a while. I think one problem I have is that I use it a lot with the guitar, and so seem to have it automatically ingrained in me. I have managed now to make it more an act that I'm conscious of, which is a start, as I can now control it more. I must admit though, that with this piece I was deliberately using it more than I would usually, as I thought it would fit the piece.

When I visited Ed to try out different alto pieces, he laughed and said " what are you doing?" Turns out I was (unconsciously) shaking the sax to get vibrato as well as (consciously) using my blowing. This mechanical vibrato action is used on the guitar, and I didn't realise I was doing it with the sax as well. I think I've eliminated that now :rolleyes:

Yes, the mouthpiece is my bronzite NYT, with a legere sig reed. I love it, and it's all I've played with since I got it back in summer. I was trying to get low and "fluffy" with this recording, and I think I've got the sound I was trying for.
 
Thanks Aldevis. By lipping, do you mean what I'm calling the swooping? If so, I agree, I can listen back and hear that it fits in some places, sparingly, but not in others, and I am making a conscious effort to control it!
Exactly

When I visited Ed to try out different alto pieces, he laughed and said " what are you doing?" Turns out I was (unconsciously) shaking the sax to get vibrato as well as (consciously) using my blowing. This mechanical vibrato action is used on the guitar, and I didn't realise I was doing it with the sax as well. I think I've eliminated that now :rolleyes:
Some old school Slovenian trumpet players had the habit of shaking the whole head/trumpet to have a "crying" trumpet vibrato. Quit weird to see.
Vibrato is a controversial issue. Check Pete's entry on Taming. If you listen to Bob Berg/ Mike Stern you will fin an interesting compromise between the two instruments.

The "fluffy" sound can be tricky with tuning until you get used to it. Well worth the effort: your sound is maturing fast.
 

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