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rhysonsax

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With their high cost, you want to get the most out of every synthetic reed you buy. And you don't want to mess up if you try to adjust them.

I have got a couple of Legere Signature tenor reeds that feel a bit too hard - too much air noise and a bit tiring to play as well as the lowest notes being a bit difficult.

Has anyone successfully adjusted these reeds and how did you do it ?

For example, scraping with a blade, using abrasive paper, filing ? How much material to remove and where from ?

Thanks

Rhys
 

jazzdoh

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With their high cost, you want to get the most out of every synthetic reed you buy. And you don't want to mess up if you try to adjust them.

I have got a couple of Legere Signature tenor reeds that feel a bit too hard - too much air noise and a bit tiring to play as well as the lowest notes being a bit difficult.

Has anyone successfully adjusted these reeds and how did you do it ?

For example, scraping with a blade, using abrasive paper, filing ? How much material to remove and where from ?

Thanks

Rhys

Hi Rhys
Yes i have successfully adjusted a Legere Signature and i used a brand new blade from a stanley knife taking off very small amounts at a time,i worked on the area just back from the tip,placing the reed on a piece of flat glass.
I wouldn't recommend using sandpaper,as i have tried that and it messed up the reed and made it a very rough surface.
just be careful to take as little as you can at a time,it might take you a while but its better than ruining a £27 reed.

Brian
 

rhysonsax

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Hi Rhys
Yes i have successfully adjusted a Legere Signature and i used a brand new blade from a stanley knife taking off very small amounts at a time,i worked on the area just back from the tip,placing the reed on a piece of flat glass.
I wouldn't recommend using sandpaper,as i have tried that and it messed up the reed and made it a very rough surface.
just be careful to take as little as you can at a time,it might take you a while but its better than ruining a £27 reed.

Brian

Hi Brian,

That's encouraging. Did you scrape right across the reed, or just at the sides ?

And did you adjust the reed because it was the wrong strength or because it had changed over time ? I find, really strangely, that these Signature reeds play really well at first but then seem to get stronger and duller.

Rhys
 

jazzdoh

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Hi Brian,

That's encouraging. Did you scrape right across the reed, or just at the sides ?

And did you adjust the reed because it was the wrong strength or because it had changed over time ? I find, really strangely, that these Signature reeds play really well at first but then seem to get stronger and duller.

Rhys

Rhys i scrapped across the whole reed working the blade oneway towards the tip,i play open tip mouthpieces and find the weakest strength 2 to be just a fraction hard but you are right they do seem to get harder and duller.
I have now moved onto Hartmann Fiberreed carbons MS and although a little brighter i find them better for me.

Brian
 

johnboy

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Hi Rhys, I expect you've seen my rantings on the subject before and others must be sick of it, but just in case you haven't, here's what I do with my reeds, cane or Fibracell.
Holding the reed up to the light, you see a bullet shape. Using a fingernail emery board, sand the edges and into the center towards the tip, stopping about 12mm. from the tip. Sand to maintain the bullet shape. I usually sand either side about 50 times back and forth. Don't forget to do a corner to corner balance check first, and only sand the stiffer side, until both sides sound the same. Then carry on sanding one side at a time, until satisfied.
I find a fingernail emery board to be the easiest tool to use, because pressure can be applied with the forefinger at the end, just where you need it.
I now use the Ridenour ATG system, because it's neat, quick and easy.

John :);}
 

Pete Thomas

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I managed to completely ruin a Legere with a reed clipper. This is something I hope to sit down and discuss with them at Frankfurt this year, maybe try working on a few there at the stand.



If they could bring out a clipper that works it would be fantastic.
 

AlanU

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I really enjoy the Legere reeds on Selmer Soloist alto and Vandoren tenor.

Although I haven't felt the need to reduce the strength of Legere reeds (I suppose I was lucky to have got the right grade) I found the underside to be less than flat.
This I addressed with careful use of 'flour grade' paper on plate glass. It certainly made the reeds more responsive, which might help you with their playability.

Strangely though I can't get the reed to play well on the alto Link STM.
Odd, innit?
 

johnboy

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I really enjoy the Legere reeds on Selmer Soloist alto and Vandoren tenor.

Although I haven't felt the need to reduce the strength of Legere reeds (I suppose I was lucky to have got the right grade) I found the underside to be less than flat.
This I addressed with careful use of 'flour grade' paper on plate glass. It certainly made the reeds more responsive, which might help you with their playability.

Strangely though I can't get the reed to play well on the alto Link STM.
Odd, innit?

That's when you need to rework/tune them to the m'piece being used.

John :);}
 

Bari251

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An alternative to wet and dry emery paper (I've had some success with this), is to hold the reed in the hottest part of a hair dryer. Then press it onto a sheet of glass to give it a permanent bend. I managed to rescue a Legere baritone reed with this method. Don't sue me if you wreck the reed!
Malcolm
 

Thierry

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Jay Metcalf of BetterSax.com promised a video soon about adjusting Legere reeds with a ReedGeek. Apparently works very well.
 
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