Mouthpieces Absolute Pro Brass tenor mouthpiece

aldevis

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In the past ten years i have been in regular contact with Mr. @Absolute and had the opportunity of testing several pieces and prototypes.
Always innovative, always somehow surprising, so I asked to try the new Pro Brass; a large chamber tenor metal mouthpiece.

The mouthpiece, together with some Absolute 3d printed models was sent to the Sequoia workshop in Italy where I was going to test some new saxophone models, together with our very @David Roach
First impression of the pro brass was great, while I postponed the testing of the 3d pieces, but I was focussing on testing the instruments, so decided to bring the Pro Brass to the UK with me.

I tested it the hard way, as I did years ago with their ST model: I put it on half way through a noisy gig with the first reed that I found. Jazz Select Unfiled 2m.
It worked great and I did not go back to the Florida Link 9 (refaced) that I have been using since the lockdown. Next day I used the PB straight away at a noisy restaurant gig. "Noise" is a regular occurrence, these days. Still worked great.

So I tried a LaVoz MS that I had around, and it actually improved the feeling and gave me a wider range of colours. Now it is the regular setup on my Sequoia. I still have to test it on the MkVI, that I haven't played recently.

Surprisingly the mouthpiece does not sound as you would expect looking at the chamber: large with no steps whatsoever down the the bore.
The result is brighter than expected with a perfectly manageable edge. I would use the word "modern" to describe it, as opposite to the Links I've been using recently.

Tiprail is thin and I guess it is the reason it has suck a crisp articulation. I even thought it was too easy for an 8* and measured the tip: 0.115 spot on.
It comes with a beautiful machined ligature, but it is too dependant to the thickness of the reed bark (that is rarely consistent across cane reeds). I haven't experimented yet with it: a soprano HR ligature works perfectly and fits the caps that I have around. I must try the "old" Absolute soprano ligature.
It has a reliability similar to the ST but less edge and, at least for me, a wider palette

It is raw brass, so some oxidation will likely happen, as with my refaced link. Easy to clean and would probably benefit from NOT leaving the reed on when not played (but laziness flows powerful in me)

Here is a short clip that I made after the two noisy gigs, brand new LaVoz:

https://www.aldevis.com/soundfiles/Absolute2023/absolute probrass1.wav
 
Sounding great and the pictures on the Absolute website look really good too.

I'm not sure about the unplated finish as I also suffer from the laziness you mention. I have an "Andy Sheppard" tenor piece made by Morgan Fry and it also is in a "natural" brass finish. Interestingly, the Absolute Pro Brass has a somewhat similar sound.

The ligatures look lovely and I wish that the Pro Brass was also available for baritone, preferably with Gold or Rhodium plate finish.

Are you going to test the 3D pieces too ?

Rhys
 
Sounding great and the pictures on the Absolute website look really good too.

I'm not sure about the unplated finish as I also suffer from the laziness you mention. I have an "Andy Sheppard" tenor piece made by Morgan Fry and it also is in a "natural" brass finish. Interestingly, the Absolute Pro Brass has a somewhat similar sound.

The ligatures look lovely and I wish that the Pro Brass was also available for baritone, preferably with Gold or Rhodium plate finish.

Are you going to test the 3D pieces too ?

Rhys
Very likely, but they are still in the Sequoia workshop at the moment. Shipping is no longer an option, due to international regulations.
I will probably take them in March.
My baritone is in need of some major work, but the 3D looks promising (large chamber with a baffle)
I can send you an ST to try, if you fancy.
6*, I seem to remember.

My plan is to push @Absolute to make an ebonite tenor piece with the Pro Brass chamber
 
In the past ten years i have been in regular contact with Mr. @Absolute and had the opportunity of testing several pieces and prototypes.
Always innovative, always somehow surprising, so I asked to try the new Pro Brass; a large chamber tenor metal mouthpiece.

The mouthpiece, together with some Absolute 3d printed models was sent to the Sequoia workshop in Italy where I was going to test some new saxophone models, together with our very @David Roach
First impression of the pro brass was great, while I postponed the testing of the 3d pieces, but I was focussing on testing the instruments, so decided to bring the Pro Brass to the UK with me.

I tested it the hard way, as I did years ago with their ST model: I put it on half way through a noisy gig with the first reed that I found. Jazz Select Unfiled 2m.
It worked great and I did not go back to the Florida Link 9 (refaced) that I have been using since the lockdown. Next day I used the PB straight away at a noisy restaurant gig. "Noise" is a regular occurrence, these days. Still worked great.

So I tried a LaVoz MS that I had around, and it actually improved the feeling and gave me a wider range of colours. Now it is the regular setup on my Sequoia. I still have to test it on the MkVI, that I haven't played recently.

Surprisingly the mouthpiece does not sound as you would expect looking at the chamber: large with no steps whatsoever down the the bore.
The result is brighter than expected with a perfectly manageable edge. I would use the word "modern" to describe it, as opposite to the Links I've been using recently.

Tiprail is thin and I guess it is the reason it has suck a crisp articulation. I even thought it was too easy for an 8* and measured the tip: 0.115 spot on.
It comes with a beautiful machined ligature, but it is too dependant to the thickness of the reed bark (that is rarely consistent across cane reeds). I haven't experimented yet with it: a soprano HR ligature works perfectly and fits the caps that I have around. I must try the "old" Absolute soprano ligature.
It has a reliability similar to the ST but less edge and, at least for me, a wider palette

It is raw brass, so some oxidation will likely happen, as with my refaced link. Easy to clean and would probably benefit from NOT leaving the reed on when not played (but laziness flows powerful in me)

Here is a short clip that I made after the two noisy gigs, brand new LaVoz:

https://www.aldevis.com/soundfiles/Absolute2023/absolute probrass1.wav
Yes, we were immediately impressed by the Absolute Pro Brass. The 8* tip is too big for me for general playing so I have been in touch with Absolute to order a 7* (which I will collect or have collected for me from Italy).
The description
brighter than expected with a perfectly manageable edge
is totally on the nail, it's a 'modern' sound indeed. Fatness without tubbiness, good projection and great intonation.
I was somewhat surprised I liked it so much because I have been playing HR shaped pieces for a few years now, but even so I felt pretty comfortable on it.

I did have a moment to try the 3d pieces. I was not so enamoured of them because they are designed to play brighter than I like to play.
However, the carbon fibre ligatures that came with the 3d pieces really caught my attention. They are a single screw type which Absolute say can be inverted (as you could a Rovner for instance). I used them with the screw on the top and found that they encouraged a clarity and focus in the sound which is opposite to my usual GF System ligatures which lend a spread to the sound. I think this is in part created by the design of the area that connects to the reed which has two raised ridges, one at either end of the ligature (a bit like the # 2 plate of the Vandoren Optimum ligature). The only drawback is that the ligatures tended to slip when I moved my mouthpiece, but then so do many other much more expensive ligatures. The Absolute ligatures are relatively inexpensive, so I have ordered a set of S,A,T along with the Pro Brass mouthpiece.
A word of warning however, if anyone is considering ordering these ligatures: they are sized for Absolute's 3d mouthpieces which are a bit smaller than, say, a HR Link or a Vandoren HR piece. This was fine for my Pillinger pieces, but not good for my Navarro HR tenor mouthpiece. I pointed this out to Mr Absolute and he has adjusted the 3d printing to accommodate a Link HR sized piece.

All well worth a look: Absolute mouthpieces – Costruzione di parti di strumenti musicali
 
Amazing ! I live 3 hours drive from them, but wasn't aware of Absolute.
Not being specially on mouthpiece hunt these days, I read such threads more for pure curiosity. Good to know.
As we go to Italy twice a year on average, and drive by Ivrea on our way to Milano, it seems tempting to stop there next time.
 

Similar threads... or are they? Maybe not but they could be worth reading anyway 😀

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