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Dont make your move too soon bb king

Discussion in 'Playing' started by jeremyjuicewah, Apr 14, 2012.

  1. jeremyjuicewah

    jeremyjuicewah Member

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    Sorry to be such a basket case today. The above is for G major on tenor (I think) and the first note of the sax solo is Bb. Am i right?
    Best wishes
    Mike
  2. BigMartin

    BigMartin Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like Blues in F (ie in G for the tenor) to me. But I'm not sure I'd call that G major, exactly. Too many flat 3rds and 7ths (and other "funny" notes) around for the key to be so clear-cut. Eg Bb which is a flat 3 in G and is not in the G major scale.
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    Thanks. I found it a bit odd myself, just didnt want to be boning up on the thing from the wrong starting point.
    Mike
  4. Pete Thomas

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    Often the only difference between a blues in a major or minor is in the chords, not the melody.

    A major blues would usually have chords I and IV as major triads, or dominant 7 type chords. A In a minor blues, chord I is a minor chord, chord IV is often minor but could be a major (dom7)

    I don't know the tune so I can't answer more specifically.
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    Can you be more specific as to which recording you are referring to, there are half a dozen on you tube
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    Hi Sorry, have been trying to post a link, too dumb. If you search bb king dont make your move too soon, its the one that comes out at the top, pic of him cuddling a guitar.
    Mike
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    That recording is taken from UmeƄ Jazz in 1986. The saxplayers were Edgar Synegal and Walter King. I don't know who is blowing the solo on "Don't make your move too soon". I guess it's the player with the metal mpc. Here is a link to another clip from that show. There is no video clip on "Don't make your move too soon". Nice trumpet solo!

    http://lloydkahn-ongoing.blogspot.se/2012/02/bb-king-performs-night-life-live-in.html

    Thomas
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    Did you get the tenor solo/song right? We are doing this song with 3 saxes (as ,ts, bs) more in the style of B.B. King and Roger Daltrey version. There are no horns on B.B. King and The Crusaders except for Wilton Felder tenor sax solo. We do it with horns/saxes and a tenor solo. And we play it in concert F. Some info about the song:

    Stix Hooper, who was the drummer in The Crusaders, wrote this with lyricist Will Jennings. Says Jennings: "It's a story song. I think B.B. had been talking about his adventures on the road, and all the romantic difficulties that are involved in being on the road. The original title's Never Make A Move Too Soon, and some people put it out as Never Make Your Move Too Soon. Sticks just sent me a rhythm track, which is basically 12-bar blues. I was in California in '77, and I just started thinking about B.B. and what he'd been talking about, so I just basically sang over the rhythm track and more or less a talking/singing sort of a thing. Bonnie Raitt cut it on her Road Tested - her live album, with Charles Brown and Ruth Brown, and B.B.'s got it on his 80th Anniversary album, singing it with Roger Daltrey. Even people like Captain & Tennille, Toni Tennille sang it."

    Never Make Your Move Too Soon - Bb King


    (F)Three days of snow in Birmingham,
    Thought you would wonder where I am.
    Rang our number all nite long,
    It's no comfort on the telephone.
    (Bb)Ran out and caught a midnight flight,
    Thought a little love would make everything all right.
    (F)The landlord said you moved away
    and left me all your bills to pay.
    (G)Look out baby,(Bb)You might have made your move too (F) soon.

    (F)Left me with a keno card
    This life in Vegas sure ain't hard.
    I ran it up to about 50 grand
    Cashed it in and held it in my hand.
    (Bb)That kind of word can get around,
    And make a lost love come up found.
    (F)I hear you knocking baby, at my door
    But you know you ain't living here no more, it's too bad(G)
    (Bb)I think you made your move too (F) soon.

    (SAX SOLO) F-Bb-F-G-Bb-F

    (F)I've been from Spain to Tokyo from Africa to Tokyo
    I never tried to make the news
    I'm just a man who plays the blues.
    (Bb)I take my lovin' everywhere
    I come back, and they still care, you know
    (F)One love ahead, one love behind.
    One in my arms and one on my mind.
    There's one thing (G) baby
    (Bb)I never make my move too soon(F

    Ackord; F, ( Am ), Bb, G


    Thomas
  11. Colin the Bear

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    Just had quick blow to this with the Sop.

    G blues scale works well. G F D C# C Bb G

    Seems to be based round G7 C7 Dmin7. To my ears which may be old and tired.

    Blow loud and bend it like Beckham
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    Something like this? A good blues-/rocksax solo: You can hear growl, flutter tone, rh side key "rattle" note bending, high screaming tone, necessary repetition ... . It's Edgar Synegal or Walter King blowing the solo. They were the sax players in the 3- horn section.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLHl5Ea9Yco
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    Wow,this one goes way back! I played in a band breifly around this time last year. It turned out this was the best number we did and I copied a very good part of the solo from a bb king recording off you tube. I dont know who was playing the sax but it went a bit mad towards the end so I cut it a bit. I cant check the link because this computer wont play youtube but it really rocks. If only our singer could have sung and the guitarists could have played just a little and if my reed hadnt closed up on a high note at the end of my solo, it would have been great. Still like the song, it wants a bit of gravel and shriek in it. It turned out we were doing it in Am, so Bm for me. Nice and easy. I know you will do it justice Thomas.
    All the
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    structure is 20 bars:
    in concert key:.....
    F F F F
    F F F F
    Bb Bb Bb Bb
    F F F F
    G7 C7 F F

    i remember playing it with a blues band, back in the day :)
  15. thomsax

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    Yes it's a 20 bars song. The chords on B.B. King & The Crusaders version is on tenorsax:

    G7 G7 G7 G7
    G7 G7 G7 G7
    C7 C7 C7 C7
    G7 G7 G7 G7
    A-7 D7 G7 G7

    It's a good song. One of my favourite blues songs.
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    Thank you. Nice clip. And good saxophone solos as well.

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