Discussion in 'Saxophones & Accessories' started by ellinas, Mar 23, 2014.
Has anyone tried these ligatures?
Their design is awkward. But could they work?
It works, but doesn't fit the smallest mouthpieces.
Thanks Nick i had thought about one of these just to keep in my case as a backup as Claude Lakey says it fits all mouthpieces,but it clearly doesn't.
I've got one which I carry as a backup in my music bits bag. It seems to fit all of my mouthpieces (from Runyon smoothbore on bari to Vandoren V16 on soprano). Its quite bulky on the sop as you'd imagine, but it does the job. Having said that, an elastic band free from the postie also does the job and saves you £25!
Interestingly, (or not to non-horse owners!), the universal fastening is based on a design, and made by the same company, used on boots for horses which don't have conventional horse shoes fitted.
I'll have to get one of these Lakey ligs, £25 is a lot cheaper than buying an assortment of different sized Rovners and it looks like the Lakey is a lot less fiddly than the Rovners I've got.
Why can't mouthpiece manufacturers standardise the circumference of their products? Annoying your customers by producing a non standard sized product isn't a good way of ensuring customer satisfaction
you mean the same mouthpiece makers producing non standardized shaft sizes (and actually different between severa production years) going on non standardized neck pipes?
there is no standard for anything in the saxophone world and, thank G-d, most probably there would never be
Anyone know where these can be purchased in the UK , any comments on use with otto link ebonite for alto would be appreciated cheers
Do they come with the 3 different sized caps mentioned on the Lakey website.. or do you have to pay extra..
SAXPA, Howarth's sell them - http://www.howarth.uk.com/products.aspx?id=113&url=saxacc.html
Cheers for that will check out Howarth's
I got mine from Howarth's - comes with the 3 caps.
Thank you all for your answers. I really appreciate it.
It'll fit an ebonite alto Link. Mine lives on a Rousseau alto.
has anyone tried them on metal tenor and alto mouthpieces? Because of their slim profile, despite the adaptability maybe they won’t work
I wouldn't use it on metal alto and tenor mouthpieces because I can't tighten it up enough to stop it and the reed from moving.
interesting, Lakey makes also metal pieces and one would have thought they had made these for those too. Thanks!
I`m wondering if it will fit the PPT Onyxite ...... or at least point to the Ligature you want the most - LOL
Hmm, might have to try one of these,
if you look at the Lakey website, you'll find that their metal mouthpieces now come supplied with the Compass lig - http://www.claudelakey.com/products/apollo-brass-tenor
The problem (as I see it) with skinny mouthpieces is this:
There is not enough contact with the mouthpiece to ensure that it doesn't slip.
and which is the brand of your skinny mouthpiece? (I suppose it is an alto sax right?).
Also, I would be ever so slightly concerned of the wire scratching mouthpieces
I thought the Dial part went on top of the Mpc not on the reed , if its on the reed I can see Milandro's point about damage
It's an alto Sakshama Studio G 90.
It's the correct way round according to the Lakey website.
I am not familiar with the Sakshama so, don’t know if it is smaller, as big or bigger than my Brancher Tenor and the , used Ponzol M2 alto.
I use mine with the dial on the top and the wires crossing over the reed. I've just tried it on an alto Runyon metal piece and it holds the reed fine - doesn't look very elegant tho!
It also fits my tenor onyxite PPT!
Is it OK to voice the opinion:
That thing is too ugly to use in public
It has a certain look about itself, I give you that! Despite that acquired taste, I like it, besides, they could sell a lot more of these if Lakey would make some sonic claims even just a little bit more outlandish than they do with “ Direct your energy through your reed! “ and ( this is really funny!): “ The Compass provides uniform pressure around your mouthpiece while enabling your reed to breathe freely, giving 30% more volume with less effort.”..........!
MY reeds don’t breathe and how did they measure that it is 30% more volume ?
Anyway, the really important question is: Does it give you any more “ Emotion”?
Apparently people use FL Ultimates in public and they're a lot uglier (and sillier looking).
Do you still get the 30% more volume?
it probably goes to 11
Of course - but only if I blow harder! Do you??
Just checked out the website and Nick's way - with the dial on the reed - is correct (didn't come with any instructions - that's my excuse!), but my way negates chance of damage by the wires. And it works ok.
Out of interest does the FL lig scratch the mouthpiece 'cos it looks like it ought to?
Not if you use them properly (though it you just shove them on- yes they do)
since these ligatures are currently unavailable in the NL, I will have to wait o month or so before they will be available at a shop where I can try them or even buy one from a shop far away and risk putting it away in the drawer of failed experiments together with many other unused saxophonic implements if it doesn’t work.
I am really very happy with the Brancher ligature that I use on soprano and tenor, but not on alto because I have the same issues that Nick has with the Compass shown in the pictures. he only real problem that I have with these ligatures is that the provided cap is horrible looking and badly fitting which really bugs me.
The Compass, on the other hand, seems to have addressed this problem in a brilliant way providing 3 caps to fit most sizes of mouthpiece and integrating the locking of the cap with the ligature’s adjusting device.
Which, if you ask me, shows one of the best designed product in this category that I have seen in a VERY long time
I just wanted to update this thread,as i have just purchased one of these for a Ponzol Custom Delrin that I've got.
The Ponzol is a slim mouthpiece similar to a metal mpc and the compass fits great,they include 2 sticky foam pads for use with soprano,slim alto and tenor and it fits snug.
i was using a soprano FL ultimate but this really made the mpc more resistant,now its a lot more free blowing with the compass.
Good price too.
Just seen this
Mine came with these textured patches, seem to work, lig stays put.
Have just been on to the Claude Lakey website and found a list of their official authorised retail outlets. The best price is from the Spanish retailer - under 30 Euros (£21). Delivery is extra but still under any price I could find available from any other retailer. It did not show any authorised/official retailer for the UK.
The Spanish price is probably a result of the weakened euro since they last bought stock. Could go up quickly when they re-order.
Probably in the wrong country.
I had a quick response from them - when they didn't hear back from Howarth's (where I purchased lig, and from whom the upgrade should have been sent), they sent it direct to me themselves. Might be worth contacting them again, or Howarth's if that's where you got yours.
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